Tue 30 Oct 2007
dear Margaret Trudeau
Posted by bon under issue stuff, pondering stuff
[28] Comments
…i got to see you speak, live, in person, yesterday.
you, who married Canada’s most flamboyant Prime Minister when you were only a 22 year old kid. you, who left him seven or eight years later and ran off – more or less, because we all know life is never quite as it appears in the papers – with the Rolling Stones. you, who had a son die, almost ten years back but the weekend still fresh in my mind, one of those jarring moments where tragedy comes to nest visibly in the golden houses of the land and icons are made vulnerable and exposed in the awful, unstoppable glare. you who have been in and out of the public eye intermittently since, partly for charity work that builds wells in Africa and partly for hospitalization in mental institutions.
you’ve lived quite a life, Maggie.
and you spoke about all of it yesterday, all of it wrapped up in a flowing, gracious narrative punctuated with some real humour and some rueful moments that i’m not sure i believe (c’mon, you really regret the Stones? dude.) and some heartbreaking moments of aloneness and grief – a few of which hit closer to my own raw spots than i’m comfortable experiencing in public and thus my eyes burned and i blinked furiously…i think my table-mates must have thought i found you awfully moving – and you spoke the words aloud that seldom get articulated at these fancy society-plate luncheons (except when they’re run by the Canadian Mental Health Association, of course): bipolar. mental illness.
Margaret, you’re cool. in kind of a froufy, earnest, endearing, slightly entropic way, yet with the poise that comes with thirty+ years of playing the political game and the press and the spotlight, the poise that comes of a lifetime of living in circles where you know the right fork to use. your father, a Scots immigrant, was a federal cabinet minister in your childhood. you were 18 and vacationing in Tahiti when you met the then-Minister of Justice, who was twenty-nine years your senior and – in my humble and entirely irrelevant opinion – dashing as old hell. your life has been one of privilege. easy? no. you have my respect, both for all you’ve weathered and survived, and most especially for standing up and owning your mental health struggles, openly and without shame, without hesitation. this tour you’re doing, and the attendant media blitz – all aimed at deconstructing the stigma and silencing and marginalization of mental illness – is really powerful work, and i actually think you’ll make a difference. your name still carries weight in this nation…and in many ways the self-image of the nation is still in part what your once-upon-a-husband made it. people will turn out to see you, even if just to verify whether you really do seem as kooky as they’ve privately thought for years. and you’ll hold your head high and speak with dignity about bipolar and about choosing sanity, choosing life over suicide, choosing to accept diagnosis and move forward from there. and that matters, a lot. and i applaud you.
but Margaret, seriously, did you really manage to talk for an entire hour on the theme of mental illness not just in your own life but in general, and appeal to your audience for greater understanding and acceptance, and not once acknowledge the dramatic ways that poverty intersects with mental health issues in an overwhelming percentage of people? did you really emphasize how lucky we are to live in Canada while people in Africa are poor, at an event intended to raise awareness of the single greatest common denominator among Canada’s homeless population? did you really just tell a $75 a plate luncheon crowd that your life turned around when someone in Ottawa, at a party, told you they had a job for you and how that job helped you find meaning again? i celebrate that, for you personally, and i realize that a former first lady working for $11 an hour after taxes had to be a bit of a life adjustment, to be sure…i get that, i really do. but did it, erm, occur to you that $11 an hour after taxes for helping new diplomats to Ottawa settle in and find just the right grocery store or drycleaners or whatnot isn’t necessarily the kind of job that the average person with a mental illness has fall into his or her lap every day? that actually most of us – whatever our mental states – don’t get offered jobs at parties at all, alas, just to keep us busy and fulfilled? i don’t mean to nitpick at you, Margaret…i really don’t. but you know, you left me heartsick there. because i think you just reinforced one terrible ancient pillar of stigma, however good your intentions; a pillar with a whole throng of tenacious roots in our societal pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps epistemologies. and that pillar is marked “those lazy fuckers just need to go get jobs”.
you have five children, Margaret. if you’d needed to raise them on that $11 an hour salary while struggling with your mental illness, you might have felt differently about the job. if you’d even been able to find one that well-paid in the first place. and if you’d been able to keep it.
you said you hated 24 Sussex Drive because you were trapped with a staff, unable to do simple things like cook for your family, or have any real privacy. and i sympathize, because as pleasant as the fantasy of never having to clean my friggin’ kitchen again may be, i cherish the sanctuary that is my home. and i wouldn’t want a staff, not really. but i can tell you that i’d prefer a staff trained to do my beck and call and clean up after me and my offspring to a staff struggling to find a shelter bed for me and said offspring on a winter night. and i don’t imagine there’s much privacy there, either.
Margaret, these things are not your fault, by any means, and i know that. nor do i fault you for your privilege, nor for any part of the life you’ve led. but if this banner is one you’re going to take up for the long haul, and i hope it is, then it is incumbent on you to take a good, hard look at the population for whom you’re speaking and advocating, in all its diversity. and to speak for all, not just those whose privilege mirrors your own, or who have resources on which to fall when they stumble. because an advocate and a stigma-battler is a teacher, first and foremost. and if you teach Canadian society only to love and accept the mentally ill who are like you, polished and financially secure, then i worry about what further stigma will be heaped on the heads of those left behind, those “undeserving” who do not only need our acceptance and respect but also, sometimes, our tax dollars and our goodwill and a sense of belonging to the mosaic of this society that may not be able to come from a job but is still their human right, under the Charter that ol’ Pierre worked so hard for.
please.




October 31st, 2007 at 3:04 am
Bon- You are so insightful- and right on target. We should never begrudge anyone their struggles, and very real losses and grief, regardless of privilege. But you are right, one must be very careful when speaking on behalf of a group, that he/she really understands that “group” in its entirety and all they ways he/she might be better or worse off than other members of the group. There are so many paths in life that we can’t ever assume ours is either the most difficult path, or conversely, the only one worth traveling.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:04 am
i think i just fell permanently in love with you.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:42 am
I’ve often thought about what people do when they have no medical coverage, since regular healthcare is expensive enough. No help, no therapists, no medication, or even regular meals – that’s practically an impossible hole from which to emerge.
As always, you write so well.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:44 am
Damn. Somebody with a big pulpit of the TV variety, get this girl a microphone, quick!
You are brilliant and eloquent. But we knew that.
And it makes me very sad to think about how much worse things are for the mentally ill here, where most insurance policies do not have parity for mental health issues and where health care is not a universal right.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:46 am
Stigma. It strikes me that we only talk about “removing the stigma” when the subjects of the conversation are of a certain class.
The poor? They have to live with the stigmas they carry with them — the stigma associated with being poor, and perhaps that associated with mental illness. The stigma that attaches to them is written in permanent marker.
It’s a damn shame.
October 31st, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Brilliant. You’ve put into words what’s been bothering me about Maggie Trudeau’s campaign for some time. I think she’s a fascinating character to be sure but being bipolar in the supportive circles she travels in is completely different than being bipolar out on the street, or even in a nice house in the ‘burbs being comfortably middle class. In real life, no one gives you badges of honour (or charges $75 to listen to you) for acknowledging a diagnosis of mental illness.
October 31st, 2007 at 12:12 pm
I wanted to go to that event, but alas, no way to get there.
I suppose I look at it a little differently. For me, as someone with bipolar, I was heartened to see someone “normal” come out with it-to show that yes, you can live a life with the disease, that you can be successful and happy. That’s really important to see, since most of the time, you only get one side of mental illness in the media, and it usually involves tasers.
I can agree with your assessment that her view will be colored by her priviledge, but I think that helps to establish for many people who are normally ignorant of such things, that mental illness knows no class borders. Rich or poor, you can go nuts.
She can do more. I watched on her The Hour a few months back and thought of how much she COULD be doing. But she could also be doing a lot less than making those of us with this rotten disease feel a little less alien.
(and I’m still jealous you went to see her.)
October 31st, 2007 at 12:14 pm
and you know, the stigma of mental illness is there just as much for crazy middle class me as it is for the lower class crazy people I know. In fact, it seems to hover a little more strongly on me since people are waiting for me to fall.
Maybe it would be different if I was rich. Not that I’ll ever know…
October 31st, 2007 at 12:43 pm
i was really lucky to get to go – my father works for CMHA, and when the event was announced i sent him a “would love to go, can’t afford it, if it turns out there are any last minutes comps i’m very interested” kinda message. i was pretty honoured to actually end up with a seat.
and you’re quite right, Thordora – the stigma is there across classes and in many ways the heaviest burden i suppose does sit squarely on the middle class, who are forgiven breaches of “conduct” less easily than the poor or the rich. and i do think it’s great that Margaret Trudeau is doing this tour, and putting a famous face with cross-generational cache on bipolar disorder. but – very specifically – the way in which she’s doing it reflects an insularity about how stigma operates for people outside her circles and what agency is really available to the majority of the population with bipolar, yourself included, where responsibilities and financial commitments and lack of external supports make the advice she gives rather hollow. i think she means well, and i think she’s courageous in doing this. but…i actually plan to send her a version of this, in hopes that maybe she can consider framing her message in such a way that she doesn’t accidentally convince her audience that the stigma they impose on the less-privileged mentally ill is actually justified. which, sadly, was a big part of what i took out of her speech on Monday.
so, for me, it’s not “she should do more.” she’s doing a lot. but i think she needs to consider the lens with which she’s painting the picture, if removing stigma is really going to happen.
October 31st, 2007 at 1:49 pm
nice, bon. I don’t know the conditions of mental health care in Canada, but certainly a lot of what you’ve said could apply in the US. Even still I agree with you the Margaret Trudeau seems like an impressive woman.
October 31st, 2007 at 2:35 pm
bon, this was fabulous. I sure wish I knew you in that real-life-know-you sort of way. I was also struck by the comment exchange between you and Thordora: both points being very well taken by me. Thank you.
October 31st, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Applauding you Bon. I have a long family history mental illness and have suffered from the stigma myself.
Good on Ms. Trudeau for her efforts. I just wished she had used a wider paintbrush when she was painting her canvass.
October 31st, 2007 at 5:14 pm
great post.
It’s not uncommon for the class issue to arise. My take on it would have been, as so well stated by Thordora, “I think that helps to establish for many people who are normally ignorant of such things, that mental illness knows no class borders,” and I would have been satisfied with that.
Thank you for recognizing that it needs to be taken a step further, and taking that step.
October 31st, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Ah. I used to volunteer with a schizophrenic woman as part of a program. Because of that experience, I truly believe our sanity is one of our least-recognized blessings, the thing we seem to most take for granted.
October 31st, 2007 at 7:27 pm
oh bon. this was a great piece, really.
November 1st, 2007 at 5:20 pm
I have a love hate relationship with Maggie. I think she has the potential to do a lot of good, and has done good work, but I think she does it for basically selfish self-aggrandzing reasons.
Also she got her drunk driving conviction overturned by challenging some of the wording in the charter of rights and freedom – you know, the one Pierre helped draft. At the end of the day, I think that nothings proves a person’s selfishness by driving under the influence and then getting away scot-free because of some legal manuveuring.
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:02 pm
I constantly struggle whether to come out or stay in the closet about my bipolar disorder. I am afraid stigma isn’t only a problem with poor people. As a middle class librarian and social worker, who passes for normal, 95 percent of the time, I have experienced serious discrimination. When I returned to work and school at 40, having just recently been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, I made the mistake of being open about my illness. Since public librarianship in my county of Long Island seems to be a small fishbowl, I have struggled with telling people and not getting the job or their finding out from colleagues and looking for an opportunity to fire me before my year’s civil services probation is over. Part-time jobs are easy to find because at any moment they can call you up and tell you they don’t need you anymore. Social work has been even worse. There is great fear of one of “us” being one of them.
I appreciate the Margaret Trudeau’s of the world being honest about their struggles, but very little understanding seems to trickle down to all the people, middle class and poor, whose economic security is devastated by their illness. For so many, serious mental illness means no job, no car, no secure home, no therapy, meds with the worst side effects.
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:45 am
Maggie Trudeau is an interesting case. You are right Bon about all this, and about how she probably needs to frame the argument better.
But I think you are overemphasizing the ability of mentally ill people to be given support and credibility in upper middle class and wealthy circles. Yes the money helps her personally, and in public, she will be spoken to and applauded, but privately, she will always be derided for coming out as mentally ill.
I know many politicians who have struggled with mental illness, learning disabilities, and drug and alcohol problems. And as kind and admiring as the initial reaction would be if they were to come out—it ends their career pretty quick with the voters, and with their financial donors.
It’s pretty sad actually.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 am
A fan of Ms. Trudeau I am not. Nor is it clear to me what the event organizer expects her to do at these dinners (besides eat the chicken). (I am assuming she was hired to be the face and voice of a tour of some sort.)
That said, I am unsure that she is required to operate as an advocate for every person, or class of persons, with mental illness. I imagine she can speak only to her experience as a public person of considerable privilege and that is likely what many of the paying attendees want to hear. I say ask the CMHA whether they will hire an indigent person with mental illness, perhaps afflicted with an unsightly skin condition, and a lengthy carceral history to act as the face of their next speaking tour. I question whether many folks will pop $75 to hear that person.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
i just stood up and clapped, i really really did. thank you for saying it in that wonderful eloquent way that you do. its so very hard to live in this boom city full of money and hummers and so called prosperity and listen to people go on about the fact that there are so many jobs, why on earth would someone choose to be homeless. um. why do they always forget the correlation between mental health issues and the homeless population and the fact that we did not all grow up with a family with money, sigh.
its hard to have a mental illness regardless of your social status and having money doesn’t take away the pain but it can provide food and shelter and opportunities for treatment.
i could go on and on but i’ll stop and say thank you for this post. xox
November 15th, 2007 at 12:17 am
This is a really thoughtful post. And I agree with you. I’ve never been a Margaret fan, but if she can get bipolar a fairer hearing, good for her. I hope she isn’t getting paid for it, however. Both she and the deceased Princess of Wales became spokespersons, I think, mostly for the warm fuzzies.
January 4th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
man.
I was a teen when Maggie cavorted with the Stones. Wasn’t that the infamous night of the ElMocambo here in T.O? Waaaayyyy back in the mid seventies? Shit. I think I was necking with my semi abusive boyfriend at the time when we heard it on the radio.
Anyhooo
I remember this contempt we had for her back then as she publicly fell apart, then as I grew older I began to understand better her flawed humanity. Oblivious at times, privileged always.
heh. memories. (Hey, and I am back in your archives as I came over for the Canadian Blog Awards.)
January 14th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I don’t know how I missed this the first time around but I did. It’s brilliant.
I’m at work, trying to focus on work but totally unable to as my husband has taken the day off work to get housing and more importantly mental health help for his mum. All I can do is keep making phone calls. We’d had a glimmer of hope last week but that’s nearly extinguished.
And of course, I can’t forget the person I just saw yesterday.
Off to vote for the CBA for best post. Your writing is just so wonderful!
June 17th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I’m an average everyday single mom, working for a corporation, and cleaning my own kitchen. I suffered from debilitating depression where I coudn’t even fathom the energy to commit suicide.
I’ve written a book titled “Dorie’s Daughter”, available at Amazon.com. It’s a story of my life over a two year time period, wherein I have sought treatment from a psychiatrist. I talk quite candidly about my depression, its effect on my life, on my children’s lives. If you’d like to know more, pls contact me @ kking@doriesdaughter.com
Thank you.
January 15th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
It is intriguing to me that the person who has written this has not left his or her name. Those are extremely strong statements, why not claim the article in hoping for Mrs Trudeau to respond?
January 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
dear Renee,
this “article” in question was a blog post…written at my personal blog, at which my name is trackable. you will notice a number of commenters above address me by name, as they are regulars.
i also sent a copy to Ms. Trudeau’s office, signed. (i did not receive a response.)
do you have any commentary with content on the subject, or were you just interested in being snarky about a post written seventeen months ago? i’m still quite willing to stand by its content, or engage in a discussion.
thanks.
Bon
February 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Dear Margaret
I am the lady who painted the portraid of Pierre that is hanging in youth liberal leader Adam Mirons office in parliament,and just completed another when he was young with the look of love in his eyes.
I too have bipolar depression
and co fascilitate Kamloops Mood Disorder Association support group, so would like to have youi email me in this regard, as I plan to create a Psychiatric anti stigma support group I shall call The PASS and would appreciate your input and guidance
ThanQ Kindly
February 5th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Dear Margaret Trudeau;
I have watched most of your television interviews, I just watched you this evening on Etalk.
I am bipolar, I was diagnosed at age 21 in 1974 and am now 57 years old. I worked most of my life but was hospitalized several times from 1974 – 1990. I often went off of my medication, whenever I felt good causing me to end up in the hospital.
I enjoy your talks and outlook on mental health and admire your strength and courage.
I never like dtoo talk about my illness years ago and now I am very open to everyone about it.