Fri 21 Dec 2007
no virgin-birthers need apply
Posted by bon under relationship stuff
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i don’t normally do much in the way of product review here. okay, i never do anything in the way of product review here, unless chronic colds can somehow be counted as products and my lamentations considered a review. colds? boo.
this absence of the commercial sphere from the blog isn’t entirely a reflection of my pure high-mindedness…it’s not that i handknit all O’s toys from my own belly button lint and meditate for entertainment or anything. i’m basically just too crappy a self-promoter to have been able to swing this blog in the direction of happy, healthy low-key capitalism for all…and i kinda prefer it as a hobby rather than a job.
rather like i feel about sex, frankly. (dear in laws, i know you’re out there and love you dearly. this would be a good time for you to go admire your Christmas tree. please. it is very nice. very shiny. look look!)
but a couple of months ago, i got an offer i couldn’t refuse. a free book. a brand new free book, published locally, hot off the presses. a book i’ve been hearing about for a year, because this town is so small that all the over-literate types pretty much know each other, and while one friend edited it another polled a group of us about what ought to be on the cover. stilettos? she asked, or fluffy bunny slippers?
the book is called Sex After Baby: Why There is None, by Kathleen Hamilton, published by the lovely and mighty Acorn Press.
(they went with the stilettos, sort of. a part of legs in red stilettos and fishnets trip over a baby’s rubber ducky.)
i leapt on the informal offer of a review copy. i ate the book up in a couple of nights, giggling a bit at parts, puzzling at others, reflecting on my own postpartum nightmares of a badly healed episiotomy and exhaustion and avoidance and skin-saturation from constant nursing, and whether i could ever have felt remotely prepared for the impact that had not just on my sex life but my sexuality, and my sense of myself.
i was all set to write a pithy little piece about the book, and how i mostly found it charming and thoughtful if occasionally flaky and a little histrionic but overall, bold and funny and worthy of reflection and just plain important, in its effort to bring to light a discussion that’s sorely missing from most of the literature about life as a new mama. my piece was going to start with the mock lament, “Good God! am i really on the road to wreaking such havoc on my poor pink bits and my poor libido – and erm, poor Dave – all over again?!?”
because, of course, i was pregnant then.
and then, i wasn’t. with a hellish gap of uncertainty in between…during which i found myself utterly avoidant of all things remotely sexual, because my body had become foreign territory, unaccounted for, with secrets even i could not dig up. and it is one thing to approach your partner pregnant with a wanted baby, ripe with hope and tenderness, another to approach him or her in grief, or confusion, raw with need and pain. i’ve tried both, and certainly prefer the former, though each has its moments, its comforts. but to actually inhabit and offer a body that you cannot identify as one or the other…it froze me. i turned away not from Dave but from my own incorporate self during that eight day wait, to an extent greater than in any other episode of my life, whether after birth or loss or assault, or even during the long years when i denied my body almost entirely through disordered eating and fervent loathing. even then, i could thread soul and body together when i wanted to, if sketchily. but not during the limbo of this november.
i considered, briefly, trying to review the book during that strange interminable wait, starved as i was for something to write about, something to distract me. but again, i froze. there was no place in me for the lightness OR the seriousness of the topic, no place for the conversation at all in a narrative so suddenly changed. so Kathleen’s book has been waiting, patiently, in the pile under my coffee table, for me to inch my way back to a self i recognize and can celebrate. for me to get my groove back, as it were.
i’m still not quite dressed in fishnets and a short, perky elf costume, singing “Santa Baby” at the office Christmas party…but, um, that’s okay. when what energy i’ve got left at the end of the day isn’t eaten up by present-wrapping and just the general madness of the season, i’m all…well, quite groovy, thank you. (inlaws, go look at your tree, huh? yes, again). i’m groovy in a way that is still fresh, because it only resurfaced a few months back in the first place, emerging gradually as O began sleeping through the night, and as i finished nursing him and started working outside the home again and just generally felt less like an exhausted house drudge most of the time.
so i’m curious. the drought – and accompanying identity crisis – that Kathleen writes about in Sex After Baby: Why There is None resonated with me, though our situation never got quite so dire as hers did, nor did i find it quite the horrifying development that it was for her. for me, the dearth of sex through my pregnancy with O (pelvic rest) and after he was born played on fears that were more about relationship damage than identity crisis…probably because i’ve never seen myself as much of a sex goddess, but have been damn grateful since this relationship started that it’s really the first in which i’ve felt like a truly healthy sexual partner. either way, i despised my own exhaustion and avoidance, except i was too tired to really summon up much energy even for that hating of the situation. i just was. i was busy. i had a newborn. and some post-traumatic stress about scissors that got set off every time the nerve damage in my episiotomy scar made itself known…but that was mostly gravy on top of the deadening that colic and sleep deprivation had set up just fine by themselves.
i hoped it would go away, in time. and gradually, and with a bit of work, it did. and it does, each time we slip back there.
but i knew it didn’t have to be like that. i knew that after Finn’s birth and death, for all we were both bleary with sorrow, and i was physically worn out from bedrest and a difficult birth and torn cervix and reluctant placenta, we were still a whole lot more able to draw back together relatively quickly. part of that, of course, was the simple fact that with Finn i passed a head the size of small grapefruit, not Oscar’s riotous bowling ball, but i think a far greater part of the difference was the presence of the child himself the second time around. caring for a newborn, at least for me, was a shockingly consuming job. it ate up almost everything else i had to give, for awhile.
what about you? for those of you who did not birth your young as holy virgins (actually, i guess even Mary had Joseph there and probably feeling mighty red-blooded by the time Christ came along), and were in relationships that may have felt the impact of childbearing in the aftermath…how did it pan out? was your libido impacted? did it ever exist in the first place? if there was a slump, did your sex life rebound, eventually, or were you one of those who was happily and eagerly back at it in days? was it hard to talk about? did you find much discourse about it in The Baby Whisperer? dish, please. it not only beats wrapping presents, but the biggest refrain that kept singing through my head as i read Sex after Baby was…Kathleen should have had a blogging community. they would’ve helped her out.
(still…she’s done a pretty good job helping herself, writing it all out from the remove of a couple of years. if you’d like to read Sex after Baby: Why There is None, or stick it in someone’s sock this year as a nice, juicy present…come visit me, friend, and we’ll do some fine local shopping. and maybe talk about sex over too much mulled wine. the offer stands.)




December 21st, 2007 at 6:02 pm
At first we had a very hard time. With my PPD and the aftermath of three years of anxiety it was difficult for me to think about anything but the baby. Healing from the birth was traumatic enough.
After awhile though we did get our groove back and then some! Having to be a bit more creative about where and when we meet for that time has certainly spiced up that part of our life.
Reading that title I kept thinking… hm… I don’t know about her but we get more and better sex now.
Maybe it is the bloggers who’ve helped with that. (um ok that sounded strange)
December 21st, 2007 at 6:55 pm
My body’s response to breastfeeding was to go on strike, hormonally. My GYN said I had the cervix of a post-menopausal woman. No sex for 6 weeks after birth? Try six months, plus. Just too painful. Damaged nerves? How about my left leg goes entirely numb when a certain spot is touched? Sexxxxy.
Then we had another. And I turned 40.
I told my husband not to even look in my direction if at least 48 hours have not elapsed since the last time we got “intimate,” unless I indicate that there is an immediate need, and then he’d better drop everything…
And I’m not even menopausal.
December 21st, 2007 at 7:45 pm
This is a topic, to me, that resembles a hand-knit sweater, made by a first-time knitter. The end result is sweet and charming and good, but the process of getting there is messy and frustrating and tiring and well, I’m sure I’d walk away from such an endeavor a handful of times. Honestly, we’ve managed to maintain some sort of ‘life’ outside of the pregnancies and young babies, though with each kid, it’s become increasingly harder, resulting in more effort. We have both attributed that to exhaustion, overwhelmingly so.
But we have always vowed to keep the Very Important Topic on our radar, so if too much time passes, we both reach in with concerted effort. It is now becoming fore-front, as our last baby approaches 10 months old. I’ve been working out regularly, feeling like a person again, untied from the physical bond of a baby for the longest duration since we started on this road back in 2003. It feels really good, honestly. I see a bright future for us, husband and wife. To me, this topic isn’t just about ‘sex,’ but also getting back to the core of what brings two people in true love together. I look forward to sparking back up our passion of the outdoors with a few day trips this coming summer; biking, hiking, etc…these are all things that slipped away from us the past few years. Getting back to the core of us brings it all full circle, makes everything intimate so fresh again, IMO.
I do laugh, though, because we were so getting there, to that personal space again when our 2nd boy was about 7.5 months. I started rock climbing, of all things. I was loving it; my husband was biking all the time and we were generally just rockin’ the house with our two kids and loving having our ‘selves’ back. Things were so good that we took a night in Chicago, solo, and drank like we were 23 again: sangria, desert wine at our old favorite bar; a 10pm walk around the city hand in hand. It was magical, just like it had always been. No surprise that the rest of the night was just as spectacular, and that two weeks later, 4th of July 2006, I sat in my bathroom alone, Boy #2 sleeping, Daddy at the fireworks with Boy #1, and I held a + pregnancy test in my hand. I tell you: it works to get back to that place, to rekindle the flame but also, dig deeper and find yourselves once again. Boy, did it ever work. #3 is currently upstairs fighting her afternoon nap ;).
Which is why, as we approach this coveted place once again, I started the BCP. Because I’m just not ready for something more permanent, but I’m definitely not considering the alternative result of all this grand foreplay either!
Best of luck to you, Bon, as you live happily and march forward – this is a great piece, as always. Appropriately deep on many levels, witty, thought-provoking. My favorite kind of read. You rock.
(Hugs)
December 21st, 2007 at 7:46 pm
By the way, I so don’t have it in me to write any kind of short reply. I am SO sorry that was so long! LOL
December 21st, 2007 at 9:26 pm
My libido took a nosedive the moment I found out I was pregnant with Julia. It took a long, long time to come back. Then I got pregnant with Oliver and I was, to put it bluntly, the horniest I’ve been since I was like, sixteen. It took a nosedive after he was born and it’s been on-again, off-again since then. The thing that stops me many times is exhaustion, plain and simple.
December 21st, 2007 at 10:45 pm
It was a long time ago. When I had my son I lived with my parents so sex, with anyone was not an issue. There was none. I had two girls after I married, 18 months apart, both were breast fed.
The last thing I wanted was anyone to touch me after I had spent all day with a baby attached to either my boob or my hip. I was overloaded by touch and I longed to have my body to myself again.
While I was breast feeding, I never felt like having sex, no urges, nothing. After my youngest was weaned off the breast, things improved slightly but by then I was severely depressed. Years of trying to find the right antidepressant that didn’t kill my libido followed.
My husband and I are older now and sex is better than it ever was when we were young. It’s not as frequent but it is very, very
good.
December 21st, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Funny to read this after hearing on the radio, today, about a poll asking whether you would rather have a year of mind-blowing sex every day, followed by four years of absolutely no sex.
OR
Five years of regular, mediocre sex.
In my head I thought, “Hmmm. Mind-blowing sex sounds good. But every day?!! That sounds like a lot of work.”
Clearly, almost two years after the birth of my third child, my libido is still a little repressed.
December 22nd, 2007 at 1:13 am
I think expectations are a mite unrealistic.
When I heard about babies nine months apart, I recall thinking, “WTF? Who thought sex THEN was a good idea?”
Even the OB-GYN said wait six weeks.
Anything sooner than that was…something beyond my comprehension and I admit, I assumed it was a selfish man pressuring a woman too eager to please.
It took me a while physically to feel ready. But a mom in my first time mom’s group had an older sister who’d had several kids, and her advice to us all was, “Liquor up and lube up,” and she wasn’t half wrong.
Raising kids is emotionally, mentally, and physically exhausting and any man or woman who can’t accept that…causes me some concern.
On the flip side, it is an important part of the relationship.
If men want it from the wife/mom in their lives…they need to step up to the plate and I don’t mean rolling over and stroking the hip.
Give mom an afternoon off with a mani/pedi. Or equivalent.
Now that’s HOT.
Or wait until after 35. Then she’s like a sixteen year old boy.
Julie
Using My Words
December 22nd, 2007 at 1:44 am
Bon — breathtaking post. Magnificent. Wow.
(Deep breath). I lost my libido entirely when I was pregnant. I don’t know if I have it back yet (Munchkin is 18 mos). I do know that there is a real difference in how I feel while breastfeeding (no sex dear god don’t touch me) and totally overtouched while SAHM and how I feel since weaning and going back to work (tentative, but considering it.)
Actually, I still have very very very little desire. And it makes tension chez moi. And that kills whatever little desire I have. We’re trying to work on it, together, and now, of course, WHAMMO even more major stress which one of us likes to burn off in mad passionate lovemaking, but which promotes a complete somatic shutdown in the other. Awesome!
Weird, but we are in nearly constant physical contact: kisses on noses and cheeks, and holding hands, and hugging, and snuggling on the couch. But not too much sex. Looming like a background crisis.
Ack.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 am
My libido was damaged by having my first child – although I was… um… undamaged, because of a planned c-section, my image of myself as a foxy lady was serious damaged by becoming a mother. Mothers were asexual, you see.
Eight years in, it’s better. And the damage to my libido wasn’t repeated with each child – things were always good and frequent and they’re still good and frequent.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 am
Wow, I used to the word “damage” a lot in that comment. Weird.
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:40 am
I am exhausted right now — and so having trouble thinking clearly (full day of THE JOYS), but I can just say that it came back.
December 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 am
after my first birth, I did feel traumatized and sore, really hurting and afraid. I didn’t want sex. I had had some stitching and just couldn’t trust the whole thing, plus I had a marathon type nurser.
it’s been like a cycle – it got much better after that, then tragically worse after a miscarriage that was rather dramatic. Then much better when we dug ourselves out the whole that was depression. Sex after babies 2 and 3 was easier to accept and want sooner, because they were easier births – even though after my second I had lots and lots of stitching – I had had a better birth and much, much better postpartum care.
And now suddenly with my youngest weaned, it’s all a little more fun again – and also I am feeling more equal in that part of my relationship and I’ve stopped carrying around a false burden of guilt.
I think fondly of red tents everywhere and so admire the orthodox Jewish friends I have who simply state “this is my time to care for me. he can care for his own self during this time when I am bleeding” – be that a menstrual cycle or prescribed time after a child is born, simply having that structure in place affords them a freedom that astounds me, full permission to keep their sexuality to themselves – of course, with me wishing for my cake and eating it too, I wish I had that with full discretion on the creating of my own time line for sex during my various pro-creative cycles – which I do believe I have; it is my cultural beliefs that set me up to fail, that make be believe that unless I am having hot, frequent sex 7 weeks postpartum, then I am missing out and not doing motherhood right.
long, long commment.
really, good topic.
thanks, Bon!
December 22nd, 2007 at 4:31 am
Wine and local shopping sound divine. If only the commute wasn’t such a bitch. But I do hope to get there some day. about the rest of it…
I was on pelvic rest for the last part of my pregnancy with Monkey, and then the six weeks. After that, there was a road back that wasn’t all that fast due to some scar tissue that has since dissolved, but was really unfun while it was there.
After A… Well, I think you described that part very well. I cried the first time after A, and I am not sure I would’ve gotten there anywhere as fast had JD not been firm in taking me there. I was afraid I would break down, I think he knew I would, and I am still grateful he got me to that place. I needed that cry as much as I needed everything else about that night.
Glad the groove is back. And that your inlaws have a shiny tree they can admire as needed. :)
December 22nd, 2007 at 5:21 am
Well. I’ll dish because as you know I am willing to post about masturbation so why not this?
I’ve never been a libido gal. Never. Ever. After having my daughter I was less of a libido gal. Months and months went by. Sex was the last thing I wanted. It’s not that I didn’t want my husband to touch me or cuddle me, it’s that I didn’t want to summon the energy for the whole grand production.
Add to that the effect on the nethers of having a kid. I didn’t really realize just how much my anatomy would change with the single pushing of a head through the hoo-haw. At first all the scar tissue made sex a painful impossibility. I remember coitally quipping to my husband one night, “the house got bigger but the door got smaller.” When the scar tissue healed, well it was like investing in a set of sliding patio doors. You could move any old piece of furniture in. This didn’t make me feel all that great about body image even though I’m not usually one to worry about that kind of thing.
Then this past summer I was diagnosed with hypo-thyroidism and put on drugs to right my hormonal imbalance. It took about 2 months for the drugs to work and TA-DA!!!! I have a libido for the first time in my life. Yippee!
I still don’t want to have sex too often, though. While it’s fun and all, I still get more enjoyment from pursuing a wide range of leisure activities. When I hear that some people have sex several times a week, I can’t help but think, “can’t you find a good book?” An orgasm lasts a moment, a fine piece of literature stays with you always.
My husband is cool with all this and always has been. He does have a healthy libido but he is, like me, a reader first. I think the sex factor was a stronger pull in determining the health of our relationship in its first few years–more b/c I felt like a failure at it than anything else. Now it’s not really that much of an issue. Besides, I have a libido now which I never really had before. Whoot! It’s amazing how much more successful you can feel in the sack when you have a libido. Who knew?
December 22nd, 2007 at 5:23 am
you know, the whole no sex thing happened pretty much ALL through my pregnancy (not because I wasn’t, erm… wanting it ALL THE TIME, but because my husband was afraid he would hurt the baby. no book or doctor could convince him otherwise) and then lasted another 6 months, and was really rather helacious, but I’m not sure it all stemmed from pregnancy and the birth and having a baby and all that, but most likely from other things going on in life and between us, but how do you separate all of that in the end? That is a large part of why we are stopping at one, because there is so much fear of what will happen to us if we have to go through that again… the fact that we made it through once is miracle enough.
December 22nd, 2007 at 8:48 am
Heh. Mad is funny. ” exhausted house drudge ” is about where I am right now, and not feeling like having sex at all. And scared that it will hurt – my first was a C-section, and sex was hard even after that. With scar tissue, I’m downright scared. And way too tired. My husband is missing the sex though, poor guy.
December 22nd, 2007 at 9:30 am
I guess I can catgorize it as gone but not forgotten. It came back eventually with one child. But now? With two? It has been almost a year and a half, and once every month or two is about all we get. And that’s only because I sort of feel I ought to. I have faith it will return in time.
It does not help that I am not on birth control. So, we cannot do it during the one time of the month I actually FEEL like doing it…
December 22nd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
With each of my pregnancies, I had no desire for sex – for the entire nine months. Many times I felt guilty for denying my husband, but I never forced myself to have sex during this time.
After Porgie was born, I had no desire for sex until I stopped pumping. Then suddenly I wanted sex all the time (which is how Izzy was conceived).
I assume things will be pretty much the same this time around. Except I won’t be pregnant again any time soon. Newborns are HARD work!
December 23rd, 2007 at 12:57 am
heh. The only thing that DID work right was sex. After my first, we waited all of 2 weeks. I think it was longer after Ros, but going batshit will do that. Sex was fantastic through the pregnancies, but we’ve never had any issues in that department.
I do remember that during my firsr pregnancy, for about 3 weeks during month 6 I was insatiable. My poor husband was crying Mercy!
Have a great holiday Bon. :)
December 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 am
Our sex life always shriveled up during and after each pregnancy. Generally for six months or more.
Things started to swing pretty wild after Bug got a little older, but they came to a crashing standstill after he died…for a long time.
Getting better now, but not generally around holidays or the anniversary…
December 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 am
I spent a good part of the last ten years libido-less, for which I thank bcp and being too thin (i.e. no estrogen). We also had a pretty long post-baby drought, especially because it was quite painful for much longer than I was expecting. And that was with lube (although no liquor as I was BFing). Once I stopped BFing, though, hello libido! Really quite nice. I always hoped to be one of those lucky ladies who’s libido goes into overdrive during pg, but no such luck.
Your offer of shopping, sex (okay, talk about sex) and wine sounds divine ;-) I will definitely look you up if I’m ever in the neighborhood!
December 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
my twins are seven months old. I have noooo interest whatsoever. part of it is exhaustion from their frequent night wakings; part of it is, I suppose, hormonal, because I am breastfeeding the girls; part of it is because of a trust issue that cropped up when the girls were really little (no, not cheating …). and part is that because the few times it’s happened, despite copious amounts of lube is HURT. hurt in a way I’ve never experienced. I had a c-section, so it’s not that. I have no idea why it is painful.
I’m encouraged to read that other women’s libido returned after weaning. perhaps, perhaps. but I don’t plan to wean for another year or so unless the girls self-wean, so we’ll see. poor husband.
December 23rd, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Great post, bon.
I have to say my libido took a blow after L. was born. His birth was difficult, and life adjusting to such a high needs baby kept us tired and me teetering on the brink of emotional outbursts all the time!! But we really made an effort–even with co-sleeping we carved out our own space in the guest room and made it like a romantic getaway–we worked hard at it and then, you know, it all fell back into place once the traumatic first 6 months or so as a new parent were past.
Now, really, my libido is better than ever! Better than BEFORE we had kids. I attribute much of this to not being on the pill. I think BCP really messed with my libido and then, when we were trying to get pregnant both times I was thinking about THAT too much to enjoy it.
December 23rd, 2007 at 10:34 pm
well,i think its very different for everyone but what has to be considered is why doesnt sex take place soon after what do all this things mean.after i had my daughter i thought i wouldnt want to make love for at least a few months well that only lasted 12 days,i dont know what it was!!i think its because that is the sort of energy we were giving to eachother like it was so intense and joyfull and difficult that sex had a v.important place in that.i tore and had parts of my vulva misplaced,hey but i was somehow able to accept that,kind of,it took time.
December 24th, 2007 at 12:35 am
Martin’s libido didn’t skip a beat, probably more to his surprise than mine. Neither did mine.
I cannot be more grateful for how easily child bearing has been for me. Both pregnancies were a breeze. I unfortunately gained 55lbs with Owen, but not even that stopped us. Both births went very smoothly. No rips, tears or stitches for either. Because of that, we had sex not 2 wks later.
Reiley was colicky and cried for 2 yrs. If I had been married then, I wouldn’t have been anywhere near my husband. When your baby is miserable, it’s nearly impossible not to be miserable yourself. Which isn’t exactly good for getting in the mood.
With Owen, he was good from the start. He ate, he slept, he had a schedule. No postpartum for me, and we triumphed in the bedroom.
So it seems that the difficulty in birth (and injury to mom) and the difficulty with baby after, seems to contribute more than anything else to the amount of sex. So couples should hope for an easy birth and baby, if for nothing else then sex.
December 24th, 2007 at 3:48 am
I wanted to comment when I first read this, but felt too shy. But since Mad let it all hang out (figuratively of course!), now I feel more comfortable joining in. Thanks, Mad!
We had droughts even before Swee’pea came along, thanks to a disparity in libidoes and and I think sex sort of became a battleground. It was I who had the higher libido and I felt like I wasn’t attractive enough, which made me turn on the pressure and guilt, which made him withdraw even further. Our longest drought was probably three months.
We fixed things up and things were pretty good through the pregnancy. I seem to recall a lot more activity during the second trimester than usual. Swee’pea was seven months old before we had sex again. He’s such a high maintenance sleeper that I’m not sure we ever had a moment without his being in one of our arms.
Anyways, things are a lot better now, although definitely more along the lines of a couple times a month and once in a while twice within a few days. Adult alone time is so precious that we both have other things we want to do as well so sex only happens when we’ve both met our needs for alone time. I very much identify with Mad’s “Can’t you find a good book?”
As a side note, I think motherhood has made more of an introvert than I used to be. I need a lot more time by myself than I used to.
December 25th, 2007 at 4:57 am
That book sums up my life! (And our son is 5!) Oh my.
December 25th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Great topic Bon! Wow. This is a hot button issue in my life. My hsb has always had a very high libido and mine is low with occasional peaks. I have recently found that most of my blocks are mental and/or emotional. That is, my body responds but my mind says “go away.” R (30mos) was colicky and remains a snuggly intense persistent personality. R needs a lot of my attention. Basically, my hsb is jealous of the attention my son gets. I am sure sometimes I do hide in my Momma role….
As someone else already commented, alone time helps. Exercise/physical activity helps. Dinner dates sans child help. Haven’t found “the trick” yet. Although, I bet Colin Firth in Pride and Prejudice would help me get in the mood :)
December 26th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
I’m late to the “hen party” but boy, has this been a major issue for us. By the time I was about seven months pregnant with Isaac I just couldn’t have intercourse anymore – too much ligament pain, no positions were comfortable, couldn’t catch my breath, etc. And after bringing a 9lbs+ baby into the world, and tearing, and stitching… well, the thought of allowing my hubby anywhere near me filled me with dread. And I was breastfeeding. It’s taken some time to get the spark back – the sex is good when it happens but it’s certainly not very frequent, and I have to make a conscious effort to woo him, because he’s told me that I rejected him for various reasons (too tired, baby’s fussy, too much breastfeeding today) so many times that he hates initiating anything anymore.
When we decided to try for number two our sex life suddenly exploded – it was like removing the contraceptives made us both more sexual. We were at it like rabbits for a whole three weeks, until I got pregnant again. (Don’t hate me because I’m easily knocked up, please). And this pregnancy I find my libido generally pretty low, with the odd exception where I’m worse than a teenaged boy and very unreasonable about the whole thing.
At least we keep talking about it – but it is hard. And we’ve had some of our worst, lowest points over this issue. Great topic. Thanks for stimulating my brain after several days of wild overindulgence in turkey and laziness!
December 27th, 2007 at 11:56 am
It hasn’t been much of a problem for us – sure there was a drought after my son arrived but more due to exhaustion and since my husband was exhausted too it was okay. We used to lie in bed and discuss wanting to have sex but not have the actual energy to follow through with it. The more sleep we’ve gotten, the more normal our sex lives have been. I guess I’m lucky that we matched each other so well.
December 28th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
hmmm … now it was over 13 years ago when i had my first son so bear with my poor memory, um … sex … what??!! there was a huge huge slump after having my son … between classes and baby stuff and second jobs for hubby, who on earth had the time, gosh ~ looking back, we were just babies ourselves it seems …
now after giving birth to the twins, i can tell you for sure that it was a long while before either of us were interested in going there. the pain of loss was too entwined with it all, the smell of them, the fact that just breathing took all of our energy in the beginning but yes it seems to me that we recovered that part of our life quicker and that was likely due to the fact that there wasn’t a newborn to look after 24/7 … interesting …