Fri 13 Jun 2008
my soapbox
Posted by bon under stuff to be done, stuff to buy
no angst today. we’re all out. i made 24 weeks today, safely past yesterday’s milestone of having had my water break at 23w6d the first time around, necessitating airlift and uncovering all sorts of previously unanticipated complications…
so today i’m just breathing, grateful, good.
and in celebration, i’m doing laundry. because i really AM that much of a party animal, yep. and because it’s a sunny, windy day, and Dave put up a clothesline a few weeks ago, and the ten foot walk to the back deck from the washing machine is a fine form of exercise for those who have no musculature left. and because this bedrest thing has meant there’s been a slight, erm, build-up of laundry in our home of late and now that i’m allowed to do a little, i feel it’s incumbent upon me to save the hamper from utterly self-destructing under its own weight.
but also because i want to do a little public service announcement. i think there’s probably little so misunderstood in the entire parent-sphere (blog or real-life) as cloth diapers. and having just laundered some, i’d like to counter some of the rumours.
i keep hearing about how they’re hard, how they create a lot of work. i can see the reasons behind those assumptions - my own mother, who owned a total of twelve cloth prefolds during my entire pre-potty-trained existence and used ‘em, day in and day out, with a wringer washer, believes Pampers are some kind of miracle of Jesus. i get that. i’m not above disposables - we use them sometimes when we’re travelling, and they have their place in my canon of Reasons i’m Happy it’s Not 1970. but what i want to lay out here, just in case there’s anybody out there waffling on the fence about diapering options…cloth is actually no big deal. not a lot of work, not a lot of gross, not a lot of waste water. seriously. it does seem to end up sounding like a lot of work nearly every single time i hear about it in media or on discussion boards or at baby showers, unless the person speaking is some kind of earth mother goddess type…but i call bullshit babyshit on that. it’s a myth that keeps us comfortable, societally, keeps us consuming, keeps us thinking we’ve got it good. but it’s a myth that makes a mountain out of the molehill of work actually involved in cloth diapering, and a myth that ends up perpetuating a fair amount of, um…waste.
this week, as public radio helped me while away the tedium of collating the final report for the project i’ve worked on all year, there was a show on about some Canadian dude who’s gone to England to recycle that nation’s disposable diapers, because a) Canadians aren’t nearly so interested in the whole recycling thing and b) England only has nine years max of landfill available for nappies before, well, babies are just going to have to stop pooping or people are going to have to change their practices. sometimes i suspect all this space we have around us here in North America doesn’t exactly channel our better angels. in any case, the companion piece to Mr. Diaper Recycler was a panel of three moms from across this country discussing the diapering choices they’d made. and while all were making efforts to be greenish in various aspects of their lives, the discourse around diapers was pretty familiar. the mom using cloth was a serious eco-hippie, kudos to her, who’s also used elimination communication with her kids and had them totally trained and probably growing patchouli and playing guitar by the age of two. the mom who used disposables had intended otherwise during pregnancy but got overwhelmed by a colicky baby and now “just doesn’t think about it and doesn’t feel guilty about it.” and the mom using compostable g-diapers mentioned the waste of water resources that go into cloth in any case.
of all of them, the one i identified most with personally was b…the overwhelmed one. i’m not the natural mama sort, not by nature. when it became clear that i had a child intent on crying and not sleeping for the first three and a half months of his little life, i struggled. i was not a pretty sight. and we’d been sent home from the NICU with a crapload of preemie and newborn Pampers, so i used ‘em and into the landfill they went, and i felt a wee bit nasty about that but seriously, when you’re not sleeping, eco-footprints can go screw themselves, especially if you don’t see an equally simple option at hand. when the Pampers ran out, O was about two months old and coming on ten pounds and starting to look like he might not swim in the prefolds and wraps i’d bought…so i tried them. and they leaked, and it was a bit of a disaster and i very gravely contemplated throwing the whole venture into the landfill just out of spite.
it was mostly the fact that i had a friend who’d used cloth successfully that kept me going. this wasn’t just some crazy thing that nobody i knew actually did. i had someone to ask, to learn from. and so just in case any of you might need that person in order to give cloth a try, assuming you even you want to, here’s me uh…being that person? or volunteering to try, at least.
there are a few things i needed in order to be able to use cloth as much as i have and as long. most important was a washer (and preferably a dryer too, though i try to line/drip dry a few loads a week to save energy). had that washer not been conveniently located between my kitchen and my back deck, it would have been a more daunting workload, for sure. the second most important, particularly once i went back to work, was a sitter willing to try cloth. i’ve been lucky on both counts. but mostly what i needed was just to work out a system that i could keep simple.
here’s what we use:
1) we used prefolds and wraps for the first six months or so because i’d been given a bunch of prefolds and i’m cheapish. i never did find great wraps but all of them starting working better and leaking less once i started washing with Arm & Hammer green, because we have hard water here and “free”-type detergents just add to the build-up on diapers.
2) around six months, i retired the prefolds and ordered pocket diapers: eight Fuzzibunz mediums and six Happy Heinies from an online Canadian company. pocket diapers are brightly coloured covers which you stuff an insert into - we got some terry “Thirsties” inserts and some hemp. Thirsties have been better inserts for us (O is a heavy wetter), though a double-stuff with one of each work great at night. all of them work best if they go in the dryer at least every second or third wash. Oscar is still wearing the Fuzzibunz mediums - when he turned a year i ordered twelve size larges as well, as he was beginning to outgrow the the Happy Heinies. all but one of our stash of twenty Fuzzibunz have held up beautifully, despite hard and constant use. they’re a little bulky, kind of like having two disposables on at once, but are cut slim between the legs unlike some cloth options i’ve seen, so they’ve never impacted his walking or comfort, just give him a cute little bubble butt that is occasionally hard to get those pesky toddler skinny-jeans over.
3) Kushies makes biodegradable liners, which i put in most of Oscar’s diapers (especially if a poop is due). when i change him, the liner and its contents just flush away. if there’s anything runny that’s gone beyond the liner’s borders, i swish the whole diaper in the toilet while flushing. two flushes max per poopy diaper, if that. my hands seldomly get poop on them, but if they do it’s no more than they would in an infant blow-out. i wash them after, or use Purell.
4) i have a green $5 plastic bucket with a snap-on lid in my bathroom. wet and dirty diapers go in there. i do not soak them. i just rinse the bucket every second wash or so with water and a bit of baby shampoo, in the tub. if i remember.
5) we also have a purple “wet bag” (also ordered online, about $12) which goes to the sitter with Oscar everyday, along with 4 or 5 pre-stuffed diapers. the stuffing and packing in his daycare bag takes max 4 minutes - his sitter sends home the wet bag (which is fabulous and holds all smell in despite having been washed nearly daily for the past 14 months) in his daycare bag, and it gets opened and the contents dumped directly in the washer or in the diaper bucket, if we’re not washing that night.
the system that works for us, basically, is that most nights all the day’s diapers (4-6, depending) and O’s pajamas from the night before and any underwear or socks or tshirts lying around the house, plus any sheets or towels or baby facecloths that need washing, all get dumped in the washer with the wet bag. all together. i do one single large load of wash on hot, with a cold rinse, a small amount of detergent, and (at least once a week) a shot of vinegar. when Oscar was smaller his clothes got washed in there too, as they were frequently rather bodily-fluid-stained themselves. mine too. clothes and diapers come out clean and sweet-smelling. they go in the dryer or get hung to dry. the wet bag hangs out for the night and goes back in the daycare bag in the morning. we do this wash four or five times a week, and end up with clean socks and underwear and whatever else in the process. particularly when Oscar was smaller and making a mess of clothes all the time, it was literally no more wash than i would otherwise have been doing anyway. and there’s never a stink build-up, because we don’t leave them lying around for more than 36 hours or so.
i dunno. it’s taken me four times longer to write it all down than it would to do it. and maybe it’s not very convincing…or maybe it’s just not for you in any case, and that’s your business. but just, please…don’t believe it the next time you hear cloth diapers are so hard, or that they’re just as bad as disposables because of the water usage (unless, perhaps, you live in drought-stricken Australia and never actually do laundry). the truth is, our society just hasn’t done a very good job of supporting people in learning to use them. even with me on bedrest, they’ve added up to perhaps a half-hour of work per week for Dave & i over the last few months. we don’t spend money on diapers (or haven’t since i got the last twelve on Ebay for $160 thirteen months ago). we never run out. we’re not even doing a lot of wash that we wouldn’t otherwise be doing.
just sayin’. there’s a learning curve, for sure. but if anybody wants some assvice or some support trying to get there, you are welcome to pick my brain until the cows come home. because i do think that financially and ecologically they’re a worthwhile option, and one i’d love to see more families trying rather than being intimidated out of it before they ever even get started.













June 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
We used cloth here too, and there is no bigger supporter than I. We used them almost till she was trained. I confess to using pullups the last bit, and they were GROSS. She loved her cloth diapers, never had diaper rashes and such angsty things. And since hewr parents are both poor-breathin asthmatics, we took solace in the fact that she wasn’t in disposables, which have been said to increase the incidence of asthma in babies.
Glad you are up and about a bit. I, not on bed rest, simply cannot get my ENORMOUS pile of laundry done either.
xo
June 13th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
What a good post.
The best thing about cloth diapers — in my opinion — is that your child is not exposed to the tv and film characters on disposables. By the end I was really beginning to hate Elmo.
But I must confess, I’m definitely like the B woman.
I inherited a HUGE box of cloth diapers and Kushie liners from my sister-in-law who never used the cloth diapers inherited from her sister –because like me — she had winter babies had couldn’t find reliable waterproof outer layers that consistently worked. Twice I wound up with a shit covered baby, a shit soaked baby snowsuit, and a shit splattered baby bucket and so I became Pampers’ bitch. In retrospect I should have tried a little harder if only you’d written this post six years ago.
Congrats on your 24 weekaversary!
June 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I haven’t had the occasion to use any diapers yet (at least not on my own children–b/c I don’t have any) but as soon as we do, I fully plan on being a Fuzzibunz family. My freinds have used them and absolutely love them. I’m glad you posted this though b/c I’m not usually that good at coming up with a system for things until I’m, say, four years into it. So I’ll probably print this out and keep it in a drawer for future reference. Thanks! Hopefully you’ll keep me from caving in to the pamper product!
June 13th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
yes, I was intimidated, but felt I had to try when we moved to this house last summer b/c it has a washing machine right in it, so I dug in and bought the fuzzibunz. It is much, much easier than I thought and makes me wish (even more than ever I did before) I’ve always had my own washing machine in my living space.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Good for you. I’m B woman, writ large, child who never, ever napped, getting ANY laundry done was a challenge/impossible. So I said fuck the landfill, save the print for some kid who naps occasionally letting his/her mom run a few loads through. Sleep won out. I’m trying to be better about what I buy her now though, in terms of where it’s made and what it’s made of, now that we’re both well rested.
And yay on 24 weeks!
June 13th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
24 weeks… fantastic!
(i was born at 30 weeks, and i’m here to tell the tale.
June 13th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Yay 24 wks. Congrats on the excersize to the clothes line.
Ditto on the cloth diapers. It’s been yrs since we used any, but both of my sister in laws use them, one with twins. Easy peasy. No smell, no mess. They even found these cool wipes so no baby wipes either. No mountain of shit in their yard when you miss the garbage truck.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Three cheers!!
xo
For 24 weeks, and for plugging cloth diapers.
I think they’re worth the effort and just becomes a routine once one gets used to it.
I can so see you, Miss Cervix Universe, touring the world demonstrating cloth diapers.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Soapbox, hee hee!
I cloth diapered Fly until he was about three months old. I know it sounds weird, but I actually enjoyed it. We used pocket diapers and all-in-ones.
Then he started wetting heavily, even just 20 minutes after wearing the diaper, and he was soaking through his clothes.
We tried gdiapers for a while, but I couldn’t take the white fluff that ends up all over the rim of the toilet and on the floor as you shake the interior over the commode.
So now we’re using Seventh Generation disposables. I might be swayed to go back to cloth if I knew Fly wouldn’t soak through them and require several outfit changes in a day.
Thanks for your thoughts.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
My story is very similar to yours. I had intentions of using cloth, but I came home from the hospital with a screaming baby who never slept. So, we went with the easiest thing - disposables. After a few months, I looked into a service that delivers and washes cloth diapers, but they didn’t deliver to our area, so I decided to let it go. I never really considered washing them myself. Apparently I am a spoiled diaper snob.
Perhaps I should give clothes diaper another look.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I’m afraid I’m down the disposables route, but I forwarded your post to others who are considering cloth. It’s good info to know!
And wonderful news on 24 weeks.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
um, Dave? You think you could come install a clothesline here? I’m dying for one….
I WISH I would have done cloth with Ros. I don’t think I’d be having the battles with toilet training I’m having if we would have done the cloth. And they’re cuter!
24 weeks. So happy. Cannot wait to meet that little girl.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Just think, just as you were listening to that CBC radio I was listening to it here. Why does that seem amazing to me? ‘Cause I think we were the only two. And yes, I think they did a very unsophisticated approach with their panel. They never really took the whole thing seriously I think. I mean, common folks, this is public radio, everything is serious!
June 14th, 2008 at 9:13 am
oh, and congrats on your week count. Keep your legs crossed for good luck. And ew, don’t lift that laundry!
June 14th, 2008 at 10:08 am
I heard that too! And was sputtering madly. People say “I chose to do what was easier..” and I’m like “but it IS easier to have cloth!” but oh well.. without seeing them in use by a friend, it’s tough to just leap into it without some kind of orientation.
But that’s what this post serves to do Bon, and that’s great.
24 weeks… sigh. Fantastic.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:50 am
so happy for 24 weeks- keep on going, cervix queen, keep on going!
p.s.- i so hear you about the laundry…
June 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Reading your description makes me wonder if cloth diapers are a workable option primarily for those families in which a parent plans to stay home for some significant period of time.
I was back at work before my son was 6 weeks old and I bet it would have been almost impossible to find a daycare that would accept a baby with cloth diapers. (not that I, y’know, tried). While your caregiver is willing to use cloth diapers, I’d guess that most would not be very happy with the idea.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
I’ve tossed the idea around a few times and I’m actually thinking of it again in terms of potty training with KayTar, how lovely it would be to buy some trainers and not pack after pack of pull-ups. But I’m really concerned about MY ability to stay on top of laundry. Some weeks we go Mon-Fri without me getting to a single load, especially when I am taking courses, which is the norm these days. I tend to to all my washing Friday, Saturday, and Sunday…on a good week I remember to toss in a load on Wednesday, too. So it isn’t that I think cloth is hard, I just have doubts about my ability to keep on it.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
We used cloth with L. for the first three weeks of his life and then, I’m sorry to say, switched to Pampers. Good for you for going the distance!
June 14th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
24 weeks. Big news. That’s awesome guys.
I never considered cloth. Something about beign able to wrap up the shit and put it in a bin (rather than looking at any longer than necessary) was very appealing. Good plug though Bon. I have a couple of questions, is it not standard to have a washing machine and clothes line in Canadian houses?? If not where would one do their washing?
June 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
lol about being able to wrap up the shit, George. yeh, i can see that. here it’s actually illegal (everyone still does it, so far as i know, but human feces is NOT supposed to go in landfill). i think until they start paying us to recycle our dirty disposables, we’re not likely to stop, alas.
i think the same goes for daycares being willing to use cloth, Niobe…until we HAVE to make some of those changes, societally, it’s not likely to come easy. funny too, cause our diapers go with O all folded and ready for use - no huge difference.
Damselfly…we went through a period like that with O, too - everything got soaked - and i discovered that it was in part that i’d let too much residue build up on the diapers cause i was using too much soap and not stripping them monthly (stripping is two hot washes in a row with no soap, only vinegar). started that, and he started staying dry. of course Fly has probably long outgrown your cloth diapers, so…assvice. but maybe it’ll help somebody else.
most Canadians who own their own houses have laundry facilities, i would guess, George…but many apartments do not. i have only had a washing machine in my home a couple of times - the duplex my mom & i lived in in high school, and one year in college - until Korea. people use laundromats a fair amount.
June 15th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Just thought that I would put in a plug for our favourite diapers. We used several different kinds with our first child. With our second we stumbled upon Mother-ease diapers, a small Canadian Company from Ontario. We loved them (especially the covers). My husband even took the time to write to the company to tell them how great they were.
I agree it isn’t nearly as much work as people think.
June 15th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Hooray on the new milestone!
Interesting soap-box issue. I know a lot more about cloth diapering now, that both my children are out of diapers, than I did when they were young enough for it. Part of me wishes I had learned more back then.
June 15th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Congratulations on 24 weeks!
We use Bum Genius and i am very happy with them. Unfortunately now that the twins are in daycare part-time they are in disposables there, because the daycare won’t do cloth. We also have been doing disposables at night because double-stuffed dipes were no longer doing the trick. But now that they are sleeping through the night more often, maybe i will try cloth at night again.
I will say that for us cloth is more work than disposables (except you don’t have to think about running to the store if you run out). If i had more diapers, it would be less of an issue, but i am cheap and have as many dipes for 2 babies as most people have for one. I do a load of dipes a day, when they are in cloth 24/7.
June 15th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
we used kushies fitted diapers, and even our teenage babysitters didn’t mind using them. When MQ got older we used all-in-ones, but when she was a baby that extra protection of the elastic around the cover kept the blowouts to almost non-existent. we used the liners, too, and never ever swished a diaper in the toilet. We bought wash clothes and cut them into fourths and kept them moist in a regular wipe container, and used those for wipes. we used a diaper genie to store them in until wash day, which we did about every 2 days. we LOVED them, and passed them on to a friend when we were done.
also, you can buy them used on ebay if it doesn’t gross you out too much, which lessens that initial investment in case you aren’t sure about it.
and wait until the meconium poop is all done with to start. That stuff doesn’t wash well.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:12 am
Thanks to Kate we use and like Bum Genius. I would say love, but well, that seems extreme for a diaper.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Consider me one of the overwhelmed ones who went the disposable route. Had I read this post, I would have tried otherwise. I may still. Thanks for this - it’s really very useful!
June 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
My MIL got me a bag of 30+ cloth diapers (all sorts of brands) for $3!!! So all cloth diapering cost me was the price of the Kushie’s liners every few weeks. Is it bad that I like to brag about that?
Congratulations on 24 weeks!
June 17th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Here’s my honesty break: The environmental factor really, really bothers me about disposables. But I plan on using them, partly because (yes) I’m afraid of the extra work. But I think it’s mostly because I’m afraid of how my peers will look at me. I’m feeling peer pressure! I’m not proud of how I feel, but there it is
June 17th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
just stumbled on your site (in a roundabout way, from Beck) and wanted to say that I agree, completely.
I always would go so far as to say that in some ways, fuzzibunz are easier (it’s great to have a diaper that goes both on and off so easily) and they are DEFINITELY cuter.
we have only about seven fuzzibunz, and use them about half time. it is TOTALLY EASY. and it’s better for the world and it’s more affordable.
I think people imagine cloth diapering as some kind of lifestyle change, but it’s not, really. it’s just a couple of extra things to throw in the wash.
June 18th, 2008 at 12:24 am
I bought some when kate wrote about the fuzzibuns last year but I have not gotten organised.
I will. I will try.
June 18th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Here is a tip for Canadian women thinking of using cloth diapers:
Go to http://www.extraordinarybabyshoppe.com and look at their cloth diaper borrowing program. I believe you can borrow a bunch of different diapers for a few weeks for a small fee. If you choose to use cloth, the fee is put towards the price of the cloth diapers.
It is a win/win situation.
Cloth is easier and a lot more satisfying. I love hanging a load of diapers on the line and thinking about how much wine it will buy me (or something equally frivolous)