Thu 28 Aug 2008
star-crossed
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dear readers…
do you notice dates? ascribe signficance to them? see numbers dancing in front of your eyes like mad Rockettes? subscribe, on some superstitious, instinctual level, to old adages about children born on particular days of the week?
i appear to. particularly when childbirth is looming. given my history this makes me shrink in shame, as i realize that the day and date of my child’s birth is, generally speaking, hardly of massive significance. i’m sure i’ll come to like whatever date she comes on, because it will be hers, and all that marvellous rational truthiness. sure. but i have nonetheless come to the uncomfortable conclusion that i am a closet flake, and possibly some kind of subconscious but full-blown proverbial nut. i have dates flit through my mind so many times a day that i am considering getting a turban and stitching paper stars to it, hiring myself out as a swami. feel free to contact me if you would like my completely ungrounded but very heartfelt opinions about auspicious dates looming over the next, oh, three or four or five weeks or so…i will be happy to consult the litter box for signs in the turds, and whatnot.
see…much as i wanted to make it to September with this pregnancy, to try to get as close as possible to a healthy term infant…i’ve never been totally keen on a September baby. late September, dandy, if i could get there…but the first part of the month? mixed feelings. this is not my good sense talking. i know many fine people who were September babies…half the people in our families, quite literally, have early to mid-September birthdays. that’s part of the problem. we’re stuffed full of Virgos ’round these parts, and Virgos have many honourable qualities…among them tidiness, a virtue above all others. also, i’m aware that just in the unlikely case astrology isn’t simply an interesting personality assessment tool but my child’s total future sewn up and written in her stars, moon sign and rising sign still mean more than the actual sun sign under which one is born. see? i’m almost an informed flake. but for some reason i can’t quite put my finger on, i’m still not super thrilled about the idea of my child sharing a birthday with most of the noble Virgos to whom we are related or befriended. i’m also not wild about her coming on any of the defunct wedding anniversaries and significant death anniversaries that occur in our small, immediate circle during early-mid September…nor do i especially like dates with a 5 in them…thus leaving about four separate days between the first of September and the twentieth on which i’d be happy to see her arrive. or at least of which the inner crazy swami Bonnie – whom i cannot seem to shut up – would approve.
i just found out that for two of these dates, my OB will be off work, having surgery herself. as i want her there for the delivery more than i actually want to assuage my bizarre obsessions, those dates are now added to the long list of Dates On Which I Will Keep Legs Crossed.
as of this afternoon, my OB’s scheduled my cerclage removal for one of the others…which just happened to bethe date she’s on hospital duty that week. We’re doing the removal there, at L&D, in case the loss of the stitch sends me straight into labour. removal has been set, folks, for September 10th.
which would be gorgeous, close to 37 weeks, even the 10/09/08 birthdate utterly cool if you follow the Canadian and European day/month/year system…but, um, it’s a Wednesday, folks.
and the old rhyme says, Wednesday’s child is full of woe.
seriously, full of woe? how can i set my hopes on a birthdate that will doom my offspring to being full of woe? i mean, Tuesday is “full of grace, Friday’s “loving and giving”…how the heck did poor Wednesday get stuck being full of woe? i have been holding my breath all Wednesday long for months, now. it would feel like bad parenthood, almost, to wish my child into the world on a Wednesday with that kind of prognosis.
damn, it’s not easy being crazy.
(and the 11th and 12th are already crossed off the calendar as taken…so, if Saturday the 13th doesn’t work, i may just have to try keeping that poor old cervix closed until well into Libra.)
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what day of the week were you born? your kids? do any of these signification systems – be they planets, rhymes, or other superstitions – surrounding birth weigh on your mind? are Wednesday’s children really full of more than their fair share of woe? should i forget about the birth entirely and go check myself into a pink padded cell?




August 28th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Damn girl, I’m first. You must think I am stalking you. But hey, you are the one talking about a pink padded cell.
anyhoooo. I always love to mention that I am a summer solstice baby. Somehow I think it justifies my erratic nature.
And if Wednesdays child is full of woe, then I must have been born in a month of Wednesdays.
August 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I was born on Friday, September 1, making me one of those tidy Virgos that are loving and giving (and am I ever!) I turn thirty in just a couple of days.
In my opinion, your lovely child is screwed anyway, because if my history serves as an indicator, then the only thing she will ever get for her birthday is school supplies, which she would have gotten anyway even if it wasn’t her birthday. This is NOT FAIR.
On the other hand . . . early September is Labor Day weekend! Oh wait, damn – that’s an American holiday. Hmmmm.
All joking aside, I like my Sept 1 birthday. The weather’s nice, just turning a bit cool. It’s the perfect night for a bonfire with friends.
But what makes the date so special is that it’s my birthday. If I’d been born on September 26, my due date, I guess I would have loved it. If you make it special for the wee princess, then she’ll love the day and bask in its glow, regardless of when it falls.
I’ll cross my fingers for the 11th for you. Labor begins on the 10th, birth occurs on the 11th (an uneventful one at that!) – perfection! What is Thursday’s child?
August 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Gillian…no! no! the 11th is on the list of Legs Crossed Days. for family reasons as well as infamy and all that.
Thursday’s child has far to go. i don’t mind that so much, just not keen on that particular Thursday. not that, of course, the baby is likely to pay any attention.
and CrazyMumma…what day of the week WERE you born?
August 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
My son is a Wednesday child and I thought about that whole Wednesday child full of woe thing but he is the happiest guy ever. My husband was also a Wednesday birthday. He was born on the 13th so every few years he gets a Friday the 13th birthday. I was born on a Sunday and I do like the little poem line for that. My big thing is trying to avoid major holidays which you should be clear of in September. You could hold out until October 5th which is my birthday and quite an auspicious day, at least in my mind.
August 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
You know mine – and it was Thursday (far to go – I quite like it). Woe – could be of the ironic kind and lead to a stellar career in observational comedy or toil saving the world. And I agree, 10-09-08 is very cool. I once had a partner (you can guess which one) with mad hippy parents and a genius mathematician pseudo uncle who did my chart and it was uncanny how much it predicted and described me and my life. Or uncanny hoiw easily I decided it did. You and me – Swaami’s R Us!
August 28th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Bon, you need to get busy. go collect all those balls of dust flying around your house, iron every underwear and re-arrange your books on the shelf- first by author, then year of publication.
THAT said, you had me scrambling to find out what day I was born- Saturday. Saturday’s child works hard for a living. Dang. There goes my dream of eating bons bons and truffles all day long. Dang! I am also a Sagittarius and supposedly life of the party but mostly I am the ash-tray.
AND, I found out my Sophia is a Wednesday child, AND a Virgo. Full of woe she is not. She is my sweet precious, always smiling, and her laughter is highly contagious and is only 100% joy. You would want a daughter like her, really. If she laughs, you cannot NOT laugh.
Whatever day this baby comes, it WILL be an auspicious day. I have my champagne and confetti on stand-by. ((hugs))
August 28th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
i was born on a friday which makes me loving and giving and i’m not, so not
okay … maybe i am …
my son was born on the 7th month of the 7th day at 7:07 … weird huh. sounds lucky to me and he was born on a thursday, thursday’s child has far to go … which i can totally see …
my henry and eliot were born on a wednesday and i choose to believe that makes wednesday a beautiful day because i got to meet them and love them
BUT
what is really important here is the fact that the original 1887 version states that wednesday’s child is loving and giving whereas friday’s child is full of woe.
now if you take my friday ~ yes i am loving and giving but in actuality, i have had my share of woe so there is a balance and its a good one i think
you need to experience some woe in order to truly be compasionate enough to be loving and giving. therefore, if you have a child on wednesday, its okay if they are full of some woe because they will also be loving and giving … : )
does that help even a little? clearly, i have given this way too much thought ~ think there is a padded cell for me?
August 28th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I’m a Virgo, and a Wednesday kid. Rewrite the rhyme.
August 28th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
uhh, hmm. you must be nesting. this must be a symptom of nesting, right?
i think i was born on a thursday. i’m a scorpio.
jack was born on a tues. and is a, hmm, what? looking it up … wait for it … sagittarius! who knew?
ben was born on a sun. and is a libra.
you’ll have to tell me what all of that means. damned if i know.
August 28th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
I have the joy of being a libra on the cusp of virgo…which would matter if I believed in it…
September 25 is a nice day. I love my birthday, and I’m Sunday’s child, fair of face and all that jazz I believe.
Vivian is a Leo…and BOY is she a Leo. Ros is a Pisces, but really doesn’t fit the profile. They are who I’ve made them really, and that’s what matters.
I would like to do a study looking at personalities based on the SEASON one was born in…
I cannot WAIT for you to have that little girl!
August 28th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
You’re not alone. I worried about that kind of thing too. Mostly I have a real aversion to having to schedule my child’s birthday. I want my child to choose it. I would hate to choose a Wednesday for my child, but if s/he’s born on a Wednesday, well that’s who s/he’s meant to be. I was also a bit freaked about having an aquarius because I really don’t have many aquarian friends (like zero now, one in high school).
Maybe if she’s born on one of your leg-crossed days, that’s an opportunity to revision the day?
August 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I have no idea what day of the week I was born. And, I can’t think of any of my kids’ day of the week either! Hmmmmm. I know I’m not less crazy, I’m horribly superstitious, so that must make me way less sweetly sentimental than the rest of you. Or I just have a memory like a colander.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Hmmm, I was born on a Thursday, I think, but I get my fair share of woe, so I might be wrong about that.
My son’s birthday was a source of many discussions between my baby daddy and myself. Liam was due as an Aries, but at the end of period, and I said on many occasion that I would do everything in my power to make him late because I, as an Aquarian, DO NOT get along with Aries. And I never have, whether there’s really any truth to astrology or not.
Luckily, the boy held out until Taurus and was born on a Friday, so he is doubly loving and kind, but stubborn and willful too. Just my luck. He’ll drive me crazy with his hard-headedness but then I’ll immediately forgive him when he turns his affection on me.
My baby daddy is a lapsed Catholic, but birthday saints are really important to him. We wanted him to be born on a day with a “cool” saint. Again, good thin he showed up when he did, because, according to his father, the saints for the days immediately before and after his birthday were decidedly “not cool.”
August 28th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Sin…i’m an Aquarius, so you have an Aquarian friend now.
and e, you nearly destroyed my entire foundation of selfhood with your whole Thursday thing, but then i remembered…different years. for a second i thought the implication was that i was born on a Wednesday! but Monday it was…fair of face. how delightfully shallow.
and Darlene…Friday and Wednesday were originally switched? Oscar and Finn are/were both Friday’s children…maybe one sucked up all the woe for the other, who is definitely loving and giving.
you guys are affirming for me that i really am cracked if this stuff is bothering me, since it doesn’t even stay consistent over centuries.
i think, in a weird way, that’s helping.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Oh dear. Dearie dear. September 11 – FOREHEAD SMACK.
—Hurriedly uncrossing fingers—
August 28th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
“damn, it’s not easy being crazy.”
Classic line.
September 25 — just made it to Libra territory. But my eldest is September 6.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
I was born on a Friday. Porgie was born on a Wednesday (the happiest little girl I know) and Izzy was born on a Friday. I’ve never given much thought to numbers or days.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Both my kids were born on Wednesday. One is as bubbly as Champagne, and the other seems, so far, to be a serious wee bub.
Time will tell.
I think your girlie will be as sweet and happy as can be, day of the week be damned.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I am a passionate, vengeful (Scorpio), hard-working (Ha! Saturday) child. Actually, that’s kinda me to a T if’n the work ethic can be applied only to things I am currently interested in for that moment.
Miss M is an Aquarian whatever that means other than her love of the wading pool. She was born, nay induced to be born on a Wednesday. So far the woe bit has a bit of bearing in her life…unless of course she is in a wading pool with her elephant floaty.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:09 am
My girl is a Wednesday child and has had 6 almost completely woe-free years.
Both of my children were due perilously close to April 1, but avoided that foolish birthdate.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Ah reminds me of when I used to write. and my Friday baby was in a gaggle rushing to fit in on Sept 10 four years ago.
My little man was a Monday’s child and it held true for him.
I just handled my own baby book, second child that I am, I was surprised to find the time inscribed alongside the date — but no day. So I’m off to the Internet to look it up.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:26 am
i kept my legs firmly crossed (whatever, i had a csection) until post aries days. i could not abide having twin ares boys. because, tauri are really so much better. well, i am a scorpio and knew it was necessary for them to wait. they were born on tuesday, but i did not really think on the day of the week.
i do believe in the importance of dates, they are very important in my father’s culture. having said that, i know your little girl shall come into the world blessed, no matter the day she chooses.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:37 am
Buster was an hour and a half short of tax day (April 15 in the US), but he arrived late at night on the 14th. Just typing that reminded me think how irrelevant dates and sayings can be in the first place – all those non-English speaking folks who don’t know the rhyme? I’m sure they don’t have Wednesday woes. You’re going to have a beautiful healthy baby!
August 29th, 2008 at 8:39 am
You know Bon, I both admire your fascination with and cringe at your bulldog like grip on dates. It must be nice to be able to remember the birthday of everyone close to you, but would send me stir-crazy to be reminded every time an anniversary of some yucky thing came around. You see, I have trouble remembering the day it is today, can never remember the date even if I’ve just written it 6 times and don’t even attempt to remember special events that may be coming up – for that I have things like Birthday Alarm! I find its a gift sometimes. One of my grandfather’s death date I have no idea of and I just remember him whenever something comes up to remind me. It’s nice. The other died 2 days before my 18th birthday and I cancelled the big bash I had planned. Pretty hard to forget, and means I always have a little sadness coming up to my birthday.
(Also, sharing a birthday with someone close in relationship but not in distance would really create logistical hassles!)
So, in all my rambling, do I think dates are significant? Nope. Nope, not really, unless you happen to remember everything and get emotionally affected by the date – so I recommend not passing on that trait to the little one!
Sorry for the essay – I’m procrastinating from the real essay I should be writing!
August 29th, 2008 at 9:41 am
I did a post about this a while back and, for those who aren’t sure what day they were born on, found this handy calculator.
Me = Wednesday in September.
My son = Wednesday in September, which also happened to be Yom Kippur, the Jewish day of atonement, the Sabbath of Sabbaths, the holiest day of the year. I usually pay little attention to dates, but I’ve always been inordinately happy about the way that one worked out.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Note: the calculator doesn’t work if you were born before 1900 or after 2004.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:52 am
If you find a pink padded cell, let me know.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This from Wikipedia:
…as being ‘full of woe’ is not a nice fate for any Wednesday born child, the rhyme is sometimes changed to read “Wednesday’s child will fear no foe.”
Better.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I was born on a Sunday – bonny and blithe and good and gay. I can’t say that any of them apply to me. I wouldn’t worry about the woe thing, maybe the baby will end up being what I should have been and wasn’t (sort of a cosmic trade).
August 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Hey, neat – I just checked out Niobe’s calendar, and I was born on a Thursday. Who knew? Did you say what Thursdays are? I’m a Capricorn, and Capricorny stuff has always held fairly true for me.
Perhaps if she is born on a “bad” day, she will redeem that day, set it right in the world again. We need more happy occasions to wash the old sadnesses out of the calendar. In any case, whatever day she is born on, she will be blessed. That much is clear.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Reiley, Tueday 9:54 pm Dec 16 1996
Owen, Wednesday 3:05 am Feb 26 2004
I don’t know what day I was but it was earlier than most birds wake up. April 19 and I fit the bill of Aries on the cusp of Taurus to a tee.
Martin was Nov 13, don’t know what time. His 13th birthday was on a friday…
I’m surprised a Friday 13th birthday potential doesn’t bother you.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Penny’s “fear no foe” is much better. I see your daughter being fearless and adventurous.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I just read Penny’s change for Wednesday and I like it.
Owen is fearless and is the happiest smiley guy I know.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I was born on a Wednesday, and you know what a misery pot I am. Wedneday August 31, to be exact – and my youngest brother’s birthday is September 3rd. And we’re both dandy people, Virgoans proud and true.
My two daughters share their late April/early May birthdays with EVERYONE THEY KNOW. EVERYONE.
August 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I never considered the significance of the day or the date of birth. Somehow this has been completely bypassed, despite my superstitious tendencies.
My daughter was born on a Wednesday and my son on Friday. One in early May, the other in late October. I’m curious now to see if this explains their personalities!
August 29th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
No idea what day I was born on. I barely care that I am a Pisces. Actually, make that I don’t care at all except for the occasional fun of reading my horoscope. And I’ll bet I could be perfectly happy even without knowing that piece of trivia.
There is nothing to fear in any date, or day, or sign- because I am pretty sure that whatever day this sweet girl chooses to arrive will be the very best day. I can’t wait to hear the happy news!
August 29th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I don’t like bumping into sad anniversaries.
My youngest two were Thursdays – and one really does seem to have far to go, but the other seems basically fine. My first is Saturday’s child & so far does seem to need to work very hard – or when he does need to, finds a way to not do it – so, mmm. Matt and I are both Mondays -he is every inch a Leo & my early June baby has that twinsy feel of being very, very hot or very, very cold – so gemini is a very good fit.
I myself am a Sagittarius with a birthday almost too close to Christmas, but not quite.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I have no idea what day of the week me or my children were born on. How strange!
I take that back, I do think KayTar was born on Wednesday morning, because that night I watched an American Idol results show in my hospital room. She might keep me on my toes, but she definitely isn’t full of woe. She is QUITE a delight, really, people warm to her instantly and she’s even cheerful when very ill.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Never mind the rest, I think that early September is not so good because of the school thing.
But at this point, I think you just have to do what you gotta do. and be happy with it.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I set great store by astrology, I have to admit. Michael and I are both Tauruses and we’re pretty textbook… as is my bouncy Leo son Isaac, who was born on a Friday who is indeed loving and giving. But James was born on a Thursday and has he far to go? Well, I suppose when he’s trying to crawl and can’t he’d say yes, but… meh.
Also Michael’s birthday is on the 13th, so he has had several Friday the 13th birthdays. He claims they’re lucky.
Pre-obsessing about birthdates and what they mean is the prerogative of pregnant crazy people. Whatever day she is born, will be the best day for her.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
And hey, I’m sorry about the complete grammatical mess and general incoherentness of that post – James was fussy all day and I’m rushing to get some blog time in while he’s (briefly) under someone else’s care.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Interesting, I have no effin’ clue what day of the week I was born. Hang on. (Google) Wednesday! There ya go. Fuck that. Hang on for a Thursday, I say.
Bella was a Thursday, but perhaps more significantly, a Leo like her father. And I tend not to put too much credence in the stars, but damn if they’re both not to a T.
Maddy was a Monday, died on a Sunday night. I hate them both now, that turn from weekend to week. Should have been a great start, and what a miserable finish.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Wow,girl, this is something. Moira, my most insane child, LOL, (actually just stubborn and Type A) was born on a Thursday (1st). Liam, a Friday (5th) and Finnian, the 30th – tomorrow, in fact. This post was thoughtful and interesting, and what will be will be…but gosh, I don’t know which date to hope for, for you now! You are rockin’ sister!
August 30th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Two members of my immediate family were born on 9/10 and 9/11 … and I can promise you that although things were subdued for a while there, it just makes us ever more grateful to have them.
I was born on a Good Friday. Which meant that, often, the night before my birthday, everyone in my small Southern town went to church and mourned the death of Christ.
Not the most auspicious of beginnings. But — and I say this as a scientist and an astrophysicist — I can guarantee you that birthdate is not predicative of future happiness.
(Nor is predicative a word. Sorry about that. Don’t tell your Writers Conference friends, okay?)
August 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I thought about that rhyme, too, when my c-section for my daughter was set for a Wednesday morning. But, she does not seem to be habitually full of woe – though I will say that whatever emotion she does feel, she is full of, so every once in a while she is full of woe, but briefly. She is a Taurus, as is her dad. I’m a Scorpio, a Friday baby, and I too like knowing that kooky swami stuff.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Hi! Wednesday child here, Virgo, given name meaning “sorrow.” That’s a combo worth avoiding.
My daughter, Pisces on a Saturday. My son, Gemini on a Wednesday. He’s a happy kid, & many people – even strangers – have guessed he is a Gemini.
September 6th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I love that poem. I’m a Friday and so are both my kids. My husband is a Thursday (aha! that explains him!). I have yet to come across anything that claims to predict personalities in any way that doesn’t warn us away from each other. But if I listened to that crap I wouldn’t have these 2 loving and giving babes, so I say to heck with it. Even on the bad days.