Tue 9 Dec 2008
the old saint nick
Posted by bon under stuff stuff
[22] Comments
last year he called him “Yaya.”
this year, the words trip from his mouth with more ease, and he notes the red hat and beard with an enthusiasm that takes me aback, makes me wary. “Santa!” he squealed in the grocery store last week, when we happened across a blow-up display of the jolly old elf. i wonder where this delight sprang from and for the hundredth time i simultaneously blame and thank his sitter for doing the normative work of acculturating my child whilst his father and i shrink and critique and dither. and then my brain skates off, wondering about this Santa fetish encouraged in the preschool set, this strange semi-magical, semi-materialist construction of Christmas, this incessant “what will Santa bring you?”
last time he was asked, he said he wanted a Christmas hat. he’d just taken the one in the photo off minutes before. i don’t think he gets it, what this fat man in red is supposed to represent. i don’t know if i get it either.
i was not quite five yet when i found out about Santa. a boy in my kindergarten carpool had an older brother and thus, i guess, a mainline to truth. i don’t remember any longer why i knew he was right, why i believed him and not the elaborate fabric of myth. he was a redhead, that little boy, a freckled face that popped up from the bench seat at the front of a car whose other inhabitants and details escape my memory…a spitefully gleeful freckled face that shouted “Santa’s not real! Grownups buy the presents and eat all the cookies!”
i believed him, but i thought my mother truly believed in Santa, and so to spare her feelings i said nothing, not a word, and dutifully dictated my letter to the North Pole anyway.
two Christmases later she sat me down to explain, very gently, that Santa was only the spirit of Christmas, of giving, of the gift of Jesus to the world or however those two are supposed to relate and i said, “i know” and i think we both looked at each other a little oddly and that was the year i woke up Christmas morning to the longed-for Hugo, Man of a Thousand Faces courtesy of the Sears’ Christmas Wishbook and a mother who’d been unsure if my father’s cheque would show up in time, and the ruse of Santa Claus fell into disuse in our house after that.
my childrens’ parents are faithless, their closest cousins Jewish. they will never experience full immersion in Christmas a religious holiday. Oscar goes to the church nursery most Sundays with his Nannie, and the lesson of “different people believe different things,” is what i hope he takes out of it all in the long run…because i have nothing more certain to offer, for myself. we have an advent calendar, but mostly for the chocolate and to try to help him understand that holidays change with the seasons and Hallowe’en is, alas, over until next year.
and yet we decorate our tree and we will celebrate Christmas in our own way, where what is holy is the quiet of the dark season and the time with family and maybe all the bounty of food and treats and holiday baking, and Santa will elbow his jolly way in there no matter what we do and maybe the baby Jesus too and all i can hope is that some of it is magic for the children somewhere along the way and that, at least, we give them to believe in.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
whatever your belief system, if you are in the English-speaking world, how do you explain this inescapable, hegemonic holiday to your kids? what do you think they make of it?





December 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
We never had Santa growing up for two reasons. Christmas isn’t about Santa and my Mother didn’t want to lie to her children. Now that I’m a grown-up with my own children, I feel the same way. My Christmas was no less magical knowing that it was my hard-working father sneaking into my room after I’d fallen asleep to put my stocking on my bed or that my parents conspired downstairs after lights out to wrap the remaining gifts and pile them unceremoniously under the tree. I loved that they did those things and in not having Santa, they spared me the pain had I found out before I was ready to. Christmas really isn’t about Santa. If you want to celebrate Saint Nicholas, who spawned the Macy’s and Coca Cola versions of the fat man in red, December 6 is the day to do it – Saint Nicholas’ day. At this point I am rather vehement about my wishes towards Christmas. My MIL and my FIL’s wife have both harangued me on “stealing” this from my children to the point where I will declare war on the next person who brings it up. The reason for the season is in it’s name – CHRISTmas.
Your children are enchanting and lovely, as is your writing. However you celebrate this holiday, I hope it’s wonderful.
December 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Dude? hugo? SERIOUSLY CREEPY.
Right now, I just explain it as “good people doing good things for others” I try and make sure we do good deeds for people randomly, trying to get into more volunteering that at least one can come along to. It’s hard. Santa is mentioned, but not often. I’ve explained some of the Christian system re: Christmas, but not much. Her one encounter with church leaves her 5 year old eyes rolling, and Ros is still young enough to just want to move the ornaments around on the tree.
It’s difficult as an atheist sometimes, but I find Xmas is easy because the message of goodwill to all transcends religon-it’s just being good, and honest and pure of heart. That’s the message I try to get across.
When I’m not so bloody cranky about the whole thing. I’m a little too bah humbug this year. :(
December 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Oooo. First to the table. First off, I love the line: “thank his sitter for doing the normative work of acculturating my child whilst his father and i shrink and critique and dither.” Brilliant.
I sometimes worry that Christmas will be nothing but a commercial holiday for Miss M. I try to show her that we celebrate it as a season of love and respect for others. I teach her about the Christian heart of the holiday and we sing carols that involve my stopping every few seconds to explain “mangers” and “shepherds” and the like.
So, yes, she is being taught that this holiday is primarily a Christian holiday, even if I am not a Christian myself. She is being taught that Santa likes to give and that he likes to see others give as well. I am also showing her that the year has cycles and in the darkest season, we are happier and better off if we show our love for others by baking cookies and giving gifts and bringing nature indoors. This weekend we will get a tree at the Farmer’s Market. The tree will be recycled into mulch right in front of our house come January. (It’s handy living across from the tree disposal site). The same mulch will be used in the park come summer.
I love that we live in a place with seasons. Christmas, for me, is part of the cycle of nature, of death and rebirth.
Have I blathered enough?
December 9th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Your family sounds quite similar to my own. We pray at dinner every night, because my husband’s family always did and it’s a tradition he wanted to carry forward. We are both baptized Catholics but we don’t go to church regularly. He did growing up; I didn’t. We tend to go to the Mennonite church on Christmas Eve because the pastor is married and his homily includes funny stories that interwine his kids and hockey and faith. Plus the music is brilliant.
My kids know that Christmas was conceived to celebrate Jesus, but they keep mixing up his birth and his death. We covered that ground again, just last night.
As for Santa, he has always been a part of Christmas at our house. I have never made him the hero; they ask him for one or two little things and the good stuff comes from mom and dad. My littlest is just getting into Santa, regarding him with a mixture of glee and suspicious fear. My older two are enjoying their twilight years with the big man in red. Watching Elf the other night, when Will Ferrell and his papa are discussing how many people don’t believe in Santa any more, Hailey turned to me and said, “Do YOU put the presents under the tree?” And I paused and panicked inwardly, whilst trying to retain an aura of calm, and answered her question with a question: what do you believe? She’s only 7 so she answered that she thinks Santa does it. Her 9 year old brother, astonishingly, concurred.
When it comes times to burst the bubble, when my answering questions with questions just leads to more questions, I plan to talk about how Santa embodies the spirit of caring and giving without expecting anything in return. Because, no matter how old I get, I will always believe in that kind of magic.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
WE’re not only religious but full-fledged Santa-pushers. I’ve argued down any suspicions my nine year old might have (GOT THAT? MY NINE YEAR OLD), which I think is likely for my own benefit, not hers.
I think that our culture is short on archetypal figures, and Santa might be our last one. I also think that what Santa says to them, at the end, is something about their parent’s overwhelming love for them, and something about giving, and I don’t have a problem with the myth.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
We’re observant Jews, and thankfully my kids (3.5, 2 and 3 months) are too young to understand what’s happening yet. We try to avoid malls after Thanksgiving, and when my daughter (rarely) sees xmas lights, we just say, ‘ooh that’s pretty.’ They don’t get that all this stuff is related to a holiday that they don’t celebrate. When they’re older, we’re hoping the fact that we live in a Jewish neighborhood and they go to religious schools will mean they won’t be exposed to too much Santa, but I do always feel sorry for those non-Christian kids who attend public school, see stuff in stores and tv, etc. and might really feel like they’re missing out on xmas.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
belief system, well, was once catholic with 16 years of schooling in it. now just a believer of something, non-defined but very present. my husband was raised without direct religious influences and he fascinates me in his stalwart and certain way that religion is not the way to go.
our children are a bit too young to know of the holidays and the associations of such, but we spoke of the fact that we were not true santa believers, ever really. i think it might have been my mama showing up dressed as santa for my kindergarten class, this because my father felt his skin was too dark to pass as santa and he did not want to disturb the other kiddies. so yeah, no real santa belief.
the holidays are magical to me due to family, bonding, lack of material expectations in our circle and food. guess that is good enough without having god in it too much, huh?
December 9th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
We are not religious either, but we celebrate the seasons. So, we have a Solstice Tree, and we do a countdown to Solstice, while the girls’ cousins in Germany countdown to Advent. We read Pagan stories about the first Yule and center our activities and celebration around the rhythm of Nature and the return of the light.
Yeah, we’ve also talked about “different people believe in different things”. Santa is a non-issue because by now they can see he is a “dressed-up guy”. They know that this is the season that is celebrated in multitude ways, depending on one’s beliefs. My biggest challenge?? My 7-yo telling her friend- “I do NOT believe in your God.” (tears hair out)
December 9th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Christmas is a sacred holiday for us, and I tell the kids that Santa is pretend. I also tell them that if they tell other children that Santa is pretend, the other children will cry and DO NOT MAKE THE OTHER CHILDREN CRY. So the lesson I teach at Christmas that I am most uncomfortable with is this: sometimes you are not allowed to speak the truth. I hate that I am expected to teach my children that at such a young age. If there is a magical illusion that I wish I could preserve for my children a little longer, it is the illusion that it is always okay to be truthful.
And I suppose that’s what really gets me about Santa. I understand other parents have different traditions – that’s fine. It’s the hate – and yeah, it is hate – that some parents will direct my way if I do not effectively silence my kids’ own thoughts and beliefs about Santa.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Being from another part of the world, am I aloud?
We celebrate both Father Nicolas, who passes the night of 5th to 6th of December, and only fills the boots and booties with candy and fruits (and, yes, they squeal over oranges, even though the fridge is full of them),or, if they didn’t behave during the year, he (and Weinnachtman) leaves a willow’s young branch for the parents to punish (yeah, sure), and father Christmas, who loves children so much that he always forgives their misbehavings. He usually brings one very, very much wished gift for each, mortgage and all.
I don’t believe in it since I was 4. But I let them into the myth, I love that there’s someone else who loves them that much that forgives everything (ha, ha).
A very merry Christmas to all!
December 9th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
This is one thing I don’t dither about. I love Santa. I will love watching my kid squeal with excitement when he sees Santa out and about. I loved listening for reindeer feet on the roof, and will enjoy pretending I hear them myself when Jack is listening. It’s pretend, it’s make believe, and it’s exciting. I believe in make-believe! Finding out the truth was not a big deal for me, which is probably why I have no qualms about fibbing to my kid. I just asked a leading question to my mom one day (I may have been 11 or 12 or so?), and she and my dad looked at each other. And then they asked very carefully if I would like to stay up with them and help them put out the Santa presents for the little kids. I knew, and was immediately initiated into the grown-up club of pretending for the little kids’ behalf, which was worth losing the belief myself.
I, my mother’s oldest, am 30 this year. The “baby” of the family is 19. But the Easter bunny still hides eggs, and Santa still signs his name to some gifts, and we still leave out carrots for Santa (and my dad shrieks – CARROTS? I THINK SANTA WOULD RATHER HAVE FUDGE! and we say I THINK SANTA MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE FAT AND PERHAPS SHOULD GO ON A DIET.)
Truly truly, I don’t mind what other folks do, but the Santa myth will be an integral part of my family’s celebrations. I think the delight outweighs any risk of harm.
PS I must spread the gospel of the Father Christmas Letters, by Tolkien. I read these each night to Jack right now, and they are such a fun part of the holiday season. Even non Santa believers would enjoy the silly stories about the North Polar Bear and his hijinks, and about Santa’s majestic home. So fun.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Hum, Reiley knows Santa isn’t real. I forget how he found out. In the schoolyard likely. But he asked us outright if it were true and we couldn’t lie. (anymore)
We told him the literal progression of the tradition, the story of St. Nick, and of course how it all began with Jesus. But mostly we try to instill in them that it’s a holiday about sharing, giving and love.
Reiley keeps the secret so not to ruin the fun for Owen. As he does for the Easter Bunny and all the other parental lies we’ve fabricated.
This year, when Owen found out my Dad was going deer hunting, he was concerned that he would shoot Santas reindeer. Thankfully we dont’ live in the northern part of Canada, and it was easily explained.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Who’s lying? Santa IS real. He is the embodiment of universal giving without judgment and without expectation of receipt. Santa is always real to those of us who believe in him.
I think the “concept” of Santa dovetails perfectly with God made human in Jesus. And tying together THOSE concepts fits nicely with the concept we teach our kids that many people around the world worship God in different ways and call him different names.
Although we are Christians and believe in Santa (all of us, even the grown-ups!), we also believe Christmas is a religious holiday that has no place in public school. Our school has no official or unofficial commemoration of the holiday, and it is not discussed in class (at least according to our kids and what I’ve observed while helping), which is nice.
We buy gifts for our kids, but it is pretty hard. They usually only want a few small things, but Grandma – who loves to shop and disapproves of our discouragement of greedy, mile-long toy lists – goes way WAY overboard and tries to buy everything that’s remotely popular, or “in,” or looks fun, or…you get the idea!
We’ve given up asking her to rein it in, and instead wage warfare on the excessive gifting by putting away things that least interest the kids and giving them to charity later.
December is my favorite month and Christmas is my very favorite holiday, so I wish you all a Merry Christmas!
December 9th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I wish I could say I’ve got it all figured out. But on my list of life experiences to address, this is WAY down there. And quite honestly, the kid has had so much crap to deal with for the last three years, I’m damn sure going to use every bit of Christmas fun to my advantage to make him smile.
I have my own very complicated beliefs about Christmas and winter solstice and rebirth…but he’s SIX. So I’ll save it for another day. He’ll probably hate me and need therapy later in life for any number of things he’s had to live through…we’ll just add Santa to the list.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
This is a post in and of itself, because I was raised sort of Christian-lite and Michael is a confirmed atheist. So our ideas about xmas and what it means to our family are sort of in flux.
We definitely do the Santa thing, because it was such a huge and magical part of my childhood, and I think that it is possible to have gifts and candy and reindeer and all that while still remembering that xmas is about love, family, and humanity.
I haven’t explained much to Isaac about the religious aspects of the holiday, because he’s three. When he’s older I will explain it, and also explain about Hanukkah (because FIL’s girlfriend is Jewish), and I’ll keep celebrating the season as a time of peace and giving for as long as I am able.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
My children are being raised to learn about Jewish culture and traditions. Their father is Jewish and I converted to Judaism. I grew up Catholic.
We are hosting my Catholic parents and my atheist brother, partner and their kids over the holidays. I plan to try to honour our guests beliefs, while trying not to confuse our children about our traditions.
So as not ignore my parents x-mas traditions I’ve offered to attend x-mas mass with them. I also bought a really cool “Object d’Art” which is about 3 feet high, looks like a bush and accommodates about 14 large beezwax candles (could never be mistaken for a Christmas tree). I hope it will make up for the lack of a tradtional tree and give my parents / our family a neutral holiday item to light up after the menorah lighting ritual.
My oldest is constantly subjected to questions about x-mas and what he is asking Sanda for…He just politely tells those who ask that he celebrates Hanukah. We do no hype Santa and we just let him know he will receive presents for Hanukah and we will celebrate on December 25th by exchanging gifts,giving, being charitable on what our family refers to as non-denominational / international present day.
I do wish people would stop just assuming everyone has the same traditions. Nothing wrong with mixing it up a bit and a great opportunity to teach / learn that differences can make things interesting and encourage creativity to bring everyone together.
December 10th, 2008 at 4:13 am
Ha. We celebrate New Year with a tree, decorated much like the Christmas one– an Old Country tradition, that. So for the first five years she didn’t know. Just didn’t know. She assumed everyone else had New Year’s trees too, just put them up earlier than we do (we do it Dec 25th or 26th). Last year she went to school, so she heard of it, but the school is Jewish, so there was no oppressive cultural assumption.
I still struggle with how to explain Christmas for real. But that is because I don’t know how to explain Easter to a child who is being brought up in a different religion without being gory or scary. She hasn’t asked yet. She sees it as it is represented in popular culture– presents holiday. I am still thinking, for when she asks. But you can bet “different people believe different things” will be front and center in that.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The stance I’ve taken is, given the overwhelming influence of Christianity in US culture and society, I wanted my son to be familiar with Christian rituals and beliefs.
The way I’ve always pitched it is: “Here’s this holiday that Christians (like your step-cousins) celebrate, and this is why. But we’re not Christian, so we don’t celebrate it.”
I admit that it might be more difficult if we were trying to celebrate Christmas, but in a non-religious way. To me, all the rituals of Christmas — even the seemingly secular ones — have become imbued with a religious tinge, so we don’t do any of them.
Tangentially-related story: When Gray was little and well-intentioned people would ask “What is Santa bringing you for Christmas?” he’d always say cheerfully “Oh, he’s not bringing me anything.”
Then there would be a few seconds of uncomfortable silence until I could jump in with the explanation that we were Jewish. Later, all innocence, Gray would say to me “but, Mom, I was just answering their question.”
December 10th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
We’re Christians, so it is the birth of Jesus for us…but also, we are heavy on the magic of Santa, too. The elves deliver an early package to our doorstep on Christmas Eve with special Christmas pajamas and a movie for them to watch before bed. Last year, Santa was able to retrieve BubTar’s tooth from the tooth fairy. The very first tooth he lost that he mourned greatly, despite the compensation the fairy left for him. Little things like that, but the light in their eyes glows so bright from it all. I love that.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Santa is such a complicated thing. J and I had no idea how/if we were going to explain it. S came home from school the other day and informed me that Santa is watching him to make sure he is good. Apparently this is what his teacher told him. I’m really not sure how I feel about this.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Like you, I’m secretly a little glad that they get the Santa stuff at pre-school, because I want her to have it, but I’m also a little strung out, not knowing even now what angle I want to take on it.
We have a Christmas and all grandparents are Christmas & Easter Catholics, at least, but we are not. Her grandparents took her to a nativity play last weekend and during a hush she asked, “Nonno, was the baby Jesus a boy or a girl? And did she wear pink?” I’m sure more than one person in the crowd felt it was time that child got a little religion.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:47 am
we tell her santa is fun make believe – I wrote all about it last year:
http://paintedmaypole.blogspot.com/2007/09/on-magical-beings.html