Sun 15 Mar 2009
don’t think you knew you were in this song
Posted by bon under pondering stuff, stuff to be done
[29] Comments
Pushing through the market square, so many mothers sighing
News had just come over, we had five years left to cry in
News guy wept and told us earth was really dying
He cried so much his face was wet, then I knew he was not lying
i think i have post-cultural depression.
you may not have heard of this bleak state of affliction - i, uh, just coined it – but you might still be suffering more than you think. symptoms may vary…but one minute you’re bumbling along, feeling like you belong to a people, a history, a place in time, and the next the whole ass-end has dropped off the cart and you notice that you’re living in a shallow, consumerist, spectacle-feeding pond-bottom where people are irrationally attached to a whole myriad of contradictory and self-sabotaging behaviors, including but not limited to bikini waxing and reckless use of Hummers. the cacophony of mud-slinging from all sides starts to buzz in your ears and you begin to despair of common ground or cohesion or any kind of future whatsoever for a species so Babel-stricken and though you’re definitely not the millenarian type you begin to wonder, really wonder. you avert your eyes from the world, then, stick fingers in your ears and sing “lalala can’t HEAR you” but it all leaks in anyway. and it chills you to your bones, because for a split second you can see through time and your time looks like nothing so much as Roman ruins in waiting, a diorama of the blithe deaf and blind.
people with post-cultural depression can be found hunched frozen over their Twitter keyboards, at a loss to condense boundless terror and angst into 140 characters or less.
I heard telephones, opera house, favourite melodies
I saw boys, toys electric irons and t.v.s
My brain hurt like a warehouse, it had no room to spare
I had to cram so many things to store everything in there
we watched a documentary on Antarctica and the polar seas, and the conclusion of most of the scientists onscreen is that we’re doomed. the vanguard of biologists and ocean experts suspect the tipping point is probably past and we’re on our way to climate change so significant that major extinctions are likely.
and all i could think about was the two little kids sleeping upstairs.
watched another documentary on the 1937 ‘Rape of Nanking’, and a three-minute scene of an elderly man describing firsthand the death of his mother and baby brother by bayonet made me break down sobbing. man’s inhumanity to man, same old song, seventy-odd years ago but i know it unfolds everywhere in every war and i hear there are wolves at the door, destruction in the air.
A girl my age went off her head, hit some tiny children
If the black hadnt’ve pulled her off, I think she would have killed them
A soldier with a broken arm, fixed his stare to the wheels of a Cadillac
A cop knelt and kissed the feet of a priest, and a queer threw up at the sight of that
because i have these children, see? a cliché, damn straight, but all this shit threatening to hit the fan, all this horror of human history, this waste, this helplessness…it’s them i see. them i am afraid for. i wonder what armageddon i’ve unleashed them into. i wonder if it’s not too late. i am the Tammy Faye Bakker of the agnostic-ish set, wandering around dripping mascara and clutching kleenexes and wailing, repent!!! who will think of the children?!?
perhaps need to stop watching documentaries. and, uh, all other forms of media.
this despair is not simple fear for my kids. i have that too…the death of one has made me neither immune nor more vulnerable to that bogeyman…just…acquainted. i can sit quietly with those fears, look them in the eye. but this is not lung failure or childhood cancer or a car accident or even predators…this is a fear beyond my kids’ individual lives and lifespans, a fear of the ultimate contract breach. i am afraid that they will have to contend with a world without a future.
and i will have to say, yeh, i, um, recycled. guess that helped, huh?
Your face, your race, the way that you talk
I kiss you, you’re beautiful, I want you to walk
maybe if i believed in an afterlife or much of anything, i’d be better with the whole prospect. but i’m reverent mostly to the shades and shadows of beauty and joy that filter down to us humans in our simple, incarnate selves…the baby laughing with her whole body, her brother’s goodnight litany that extends to every soul he’s ever met, the glances, tired and solemn, that pass between Dave & i as we struggle through another half-sleepless breakfast still as present as we can be to this thing we’re doing as a family, the sound of that last high, harmonic note in the final verse of The Band’s The Weight. i’m a sucker for this whole heritage of being human thing. and i’m scared we’re fucking it irrevocably up. right now, just in time for the two little people sleeping upstairs to reap the whirlwind.
the sorrow and shame of that possibility sits on me like a whole other skin.
perspective is hard to get out here on the misty slough of despond. part of me hopes maybe i’ve just finally unhinged, and need to go gnash my teeth and rend my garments and maybe spend a few years sitting atop a forty-foot pole like the crazy doom-saying prophets of old…hell, their worlds seldom ended, at least not like they’d foretold.
part of me hopes that all this fear is part of a process of learning how to change, maybe even drastically enough to make a difference. part of me hopes someone out there will say, me too. and this is what helps…
part of me hopes somebody invents a Prozac for this malady and fast, so i can stop looking at my offspring like poor doomed children. it’s bad for discipline.
We’ve got five years, stuck on my eyes
Five years, what a surprise
We’ve got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, thats all we’ve got
- Five Years, David Bowie (first released the year before i was, um, born)




March 15th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Yes. Yes. Yes.
The news alone these past two days with that helicopter crashing and that PEI nurse being abducted and all the economic and environmental turmoil–and then I turn back to my Twitter account and the Internet (non)DRAMA it serves up to me and I fall into bouts of self-loathing as I tweet and then I listen to my daughter rhyme off the names of ponies and care bears and hockey teams and think “Hey, we in the West are raising our kids to excel at bar trivia, nothing more” and Rome must fall, it surely must fall.
That is the other post I was going to write today but came away from life and skating and fresh air too shallow to tackle it. So, thank you.
March 16th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I suppose perhaps I read too much bad news history, but I guess I’ve always looked at it and thought, “hey, every other civilization thought the sky was falling, and it didn’t-we aren’t too bad!”
I mean, I feel it, and cringe from it, and stuff my paranoia’s in a box, but I try not to feel it too deeply. I have to have hope, or the little monster in my head wins.
And can anything be bad in a world where you can eat dairy again?
March 16th, 2009 at 12:59 am
how can you even entertain that you write like a lawnmower?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
ah, but Thor, they did. a surprising portion of the grand civilizations of the past – the Sumerians and the Mayans were two – destroyed themselves by careless, unsustainable growth beyond the capacity of their environments, so that they went quickly from glorious peak to wasteland. where there are records it suggests they acted rather as we are now.
the big civilizations that didn’t self-destruct…they often had room for expansion, or built-in geographic checks to behaviour. we don’t.
somebody hand me a paper bag for my hyperventilation now, will ya?
March 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Honestly? I just try not to think about it. Maybe that’s wrong, but it’s the truth. I can worry about things I have some control in, things I can actively do something about, but otherwise, I just can’t.
March 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Have you ever read The Road by Cormac McCarthy? That book was my first glance into what you speak of in this post. In the first few pages the father, who is trying to nagivate a wasteland and protect his son, says, If he(the son)is not the word of God, than God had never spoken. I remember shaking at those words under the weight of my love for my children and my fear that this book wasa not so far off future, either literally or figuratively. I couldn’t keep reading. I could not bear discovering this child dead on some random page. I had to hurry to the end to make sure he survived. I was so rattled. I thought of my sleeping children upstairs and realized that everything had changed. The world was only as safe as I could make them. Terryifying.
I read this post early this morning, and it has stayed with me.
March 16th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I’ve been in a state of post-cultural depression for the last twenty years, give or take. I vaccillate between happiness that finally people are paying attention and despair that it took so long and may be too late.
Ronald Wright wrote an essay called “Fool’s Paradise” in A Passion for this Earth, about the collapse of the civilization on Easter Island from overharvesting the forests, in which he wrote:
“We might think that in such a limited place where, from the height of Tereveka, islanders could survey their whole world at a glance, steps would have been taken to halt the cutting, to protect the saplings, to replant. We might think that as trees became scarce, the erection of statues would have been curtailed and timber reserved for essential services such as boat-building and roofing. But that is not what happened. The people who felled the last tree could see it was the last, could know with complete certainty that there would never be another. And they felled it anyway.”
He spends the rest of the essay detailing the collapse of their civilization from a well-fed, prosperous, complex island society to a few remnants living in caves and fighting over chickens. After the gods they worshipped failed to save them from themselves, they toppled the statues.
I spend a large part of every day looking for reasons to believe that we are not as stupid as the Easter Islanders.
Sorry to be depressing, but when are people going to stop trying to protect themselves from a wholly justifiable terror, get off their asses, and make some changes? It wouldn’t even be hard to stop climate change–we have all the technology we need and it would cost less than 1% of global GDP to implement it. What is wrong with us?
March 16th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I have to say that being removed from the news for the past month has been the best thing i have done for myself in a long, long time.
March 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
uuh… ditto what Jen just said but 2months
March 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I think that people throughout time have thought that the world was ending soon. I know my SIL has been harping about Armageddon for the past ten years.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I don’t know if I should laugh or cry. I laugh at this, “Roman ruins in waiting, a diorama of the blithe deaf and blind” and cry at Tammy Faye Bakker. I think I’m all arfed up. Does it help to know that you wrote this beautifully? I didn’t think so.
Don’t look too far to the horizon. I don’t. Can’t. Did a while back. Not good.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Christy, i have one of those too.
but most religious folk who believe Armageddon is nigh think it’s the hand of God at work and they’ll be raptured up to be with Jesus. so a) they see it as inevitable and b) overall a good thing, ending as it should.
me, i see it as neither, just a lot of death and destruction. whether total or just enough to bring us back to the, say, billion people the earth can support pre-indusrially as opposed to the 6+ we currently have…either way it’s tough to reconcile with my pleasant day with the kids in the snow.
we’re conditioned – particularly those of us who are secular, with the predisposition against apocalyptic discourse – to just dismiss this kind of fear. maybe that’s better. or maybe it’s keeping us from owning our shit and changing. i wonder if the 24 hour news cycle doesn’t distract us from the big picture, too.
anyhoo, anyone know where i can get a nice beard and loincloth?
March 16th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
oh me too. damn that i have yet to figure out how to fix it. um, maybe move to Belize with Jen?
a true atheist at this point in my life and all i know is this…treasure the moments, because they’re all we’ve got. and turn off the television, and radio, recycle the newspaper. live life in my local community, what I need to know will come to me by word of mouth. easier said than done.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I can’t think about how the entire planet is merrily riding off to hell (or its secular equivalent) in a handcart too much, because I will drive myself crazy. All I can do is live my life, love my kids, and try to do right by them as best I can.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Bon, you and your commenters are so damn smart and insightful and articulate that I keep your posts open for days – no kidding, days – hoping that something will come to me that will add to your space rather than be more like “huh huh” a.k.a. beavis. Or butthead. Whichever the one was that needed T.P. for his bunghole.
Posts like this make me crave a glass of wine in your living room, apocalypse be damned. Okay I guess an apocalypse would make *us* damned. But at least we’d go out with wine.
March 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
I hear you. Oh, how I hear you.
When our daughter arrived just over two years ago there was a daily deluge of scientific facts about how our earth is dying. I would lie awake at night terrified for her future safety, consumed with concern about whether she would make it out of her teens alive.
My way of dealing with it? I stopped reading environmental articles or watching relevant documentaries. That would be the “bury my head in the sand” approach. It helped to ease the sense of panic, so I suspect it was a good thing at the time.
However, we also upped our efforts to live sustainably. I’m keen on the reduce and reuse foremost, and obviously we recycle as much as possible. We catch water from the taps to pour on plants, use public transport regularly, and try generally to limit our consumption. We’re hoping to even start a veggie garden soon (haven’t gotten that organised yet). I also ask people about what tips they have for sustainable living, as a way of opening up dialogue about it. I don’t want to turn into a placard carrying alarmist, but neither am I satisfied to just throw my hands in the air and give in.
Even though I do believe in God and an afterlife, it doesn’t make me blase about this world. If anything, the exact opposite. I believe our world is a beautiful, nourishing and protective gift that sustains our life. As such, it does not deserve to be abused, ignored and destroyed through overconsumption and carelessness.
Remember the now really old movie Groundhog Day? As Bill Murray’s character realised the reality of living the same day over and over he went through various responses – hedonistic, nihilistic, etc – and in the end he chose to make the most of his days by spending time with people, learning skills, and enriching the lives of others.
Perhaps our time, and the time of our children, is far more limited than we would ever desire. What is left is how we choose to use what time we do have.
March 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Oh dear. Am depressed also. ‘Nuff said.
March 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Quadelle, your comment comforted me. i think you (and Hannah, and some others here) are right…all we can do is live as best we can, try to care for our kids – and the earth – as best we can.
Kate, the wine? mi liquor store, su liquor store. anytime.
March 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I was pregnant with my Boy when the planes crashed into the World Trade Center, and I remember clutching my belly and feeling sick with horror that I was bringing children into THIS world.
… but I do think that every generation has felt like it was the last, really. And my husband always says the most comforting thing – don’t worry about things that you can’t do anything about. Even IF things totally go tits up, what good would you being sad and scared now have done?
(Most Christians don’t subscribe to the whole Rapture thing, eh? That’s mostly just a Pentecostal Christian belief. As a Christian, let me say that I’m no more eager for everything to go to hell than you are.)
March 17th, 2009 at 11:38 am
oh Beck, apologies. i in no way meant to suggest most Christians are eager for the Rapture or even believe in the concept…rather, just that those who do go on about Armageddon being at hand tend to view said Armageddon in relatively positive and deterministic terms.
i think particularly in Canada that’s a very small proportion of Christians…and many churches are actively trying to bring the term Christian back the middle. for instance, my mum’s mainline Protestant church is very active in environmental stewardship…but their membership probably aren’t the ones talking about Armageddon to Christy.
March 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
once again, you have laid out a post that seems to have been sketched from my own mind and thoughts, made much more effective by the bowie lyrics that made me shudder and your brilliant way with words.
tim and i have actual discussions about how we would survive post-apocalypse…things like, we could take to the hills behind our home, purify water, shoot deer, organize a community with strengths to support us all…and then i realize this plan would likely not include internet and i feel a bit sick.
the thing that swayed me towards the having of my children was the thought that they could be the change. if they cannot, well, i am not sure what to do. it is a scary thought to realize our choice for them might not have been the right one.
and i will most definitely hope that the change comes in all of us, not just our children. until we start making the choices to release from our cycles to expand and destroy, we cannot go forward. your not alone up there, o’ prophetess. sorry, that is probably not really a comfort.
March 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I think you are on to something with your diagnosis.
I have been consumed by anxiety lately. Galloping-out-of-control-in-my-chest anxiety. I simply can’t watch documentaries right now. I can barely watch the news. I can’t read about 100 year jail sentences for stealing money and 1 year sentences for stealing a child’s innocence. I just can’t.
I’m trying to do my part to make things a little better. Recycling. Composting. Raising little hens in the backyard. It’s not enough. I know this.
I’m trying to impart to my children a new respect for the world. I feel like this economic crisis is a huge opportunity to change our model from growth to sustainability. But nobody in the mainstream is talking about that possibility. Will we save ourselves? I don’t know. All I know is that my grandchildren might be completely disgusted by me one day for this legacy we are leaving.
March 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I hear you, I hear you. I know that feeling well — it is one of the things that whisks me away to far off lands.
Sending supportive thoughts…
March 19th, 2009 at 12:55 am
I’ve been trying to articulate some wide reaching angst that goes to anger for me. It came to me in flash when I lost tolerance of self-selecting terrorizing myself with some prime-time criminalist-heavy social horror, [insert Law & Odor franchise reference] I feel it is a kind of contemporary xenophobia where we don’t fear everyone, we fear everything.
Now I’ll have this angle to flesh that out as well. I feel I have a lot to pray for this Easter.
Thanks for placing that song, too. I had forgotten it.
March 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I don’t even turn the television on anymore. Nor read the paper. Kind of like closing your eyes just before the barrel goes over the waterfall.
March 20th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Please let me know when that Prozac comes out.
March 21st, 2009 at 12:47 am
That is the album I would have had on a desert island with me if it were to happen.
Best not to dwell on apocalyptic thoughts. The world, she will continue in its terrible and beautiful way and our children will delight and curse it just as we do.
He was soooo stoned when he wrote that album. Just look at his eyes on the album art.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
“me too and this is what helps”…. blogs like this one. And just sitting together here in the ether and holding hands and wiping tears and laughing a bit maniacally and trying to cobble together some community despite the bedlam.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
p.s.: please pardon the crappy spelling above.
And one other of my own small comforts in the face of post-cultural depression: Leonard Cohen’s lyric (and his music altogether) “There is a crack, a crack in everything, that’s how the light gets in.”